The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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Grand Vol said:
@WBO

Here's a good article on the stupidity of the USAF in regards to one of the most effective aerial weapons platforms of all time.

Air Force Leaders Defy Congress’s A-10 Mandates
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I wondered what happened to the re-winging. It's seems that the A-10 might be vulnerable in a place like Ukraine, but it certainly has it's moments. Overall, it looks like the AF wants to dump the A-10 as an excuse to buy more of an unproven plane that looks like a bad bet for close air support. The one size fits all might work, or it just as well might leave us high and dry. Hard to believe in a fighter that carries four missiles or loses the "big feature" stealth if it slings more under the wings.
 
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AM64 said:
I wondered what happened to the re-winging. It's seems that the A-10 might be vulnerable in a place like Ukraine, but it certainly has it's moments. Overall, it looks like the AF wants to dump the A-10 as an excuse to buy more of an unproven plane that looks like a bad bet for close air support. The one size fits all might work, or it just as well might leave us high and dry. Hard to believe in a fighter that carries four missiles or loses the "big feature" stealth if it slings more under the wings.
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The AF has never wanted the CAS mission.
 
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hog88 said:
It's absolutely asinine that an agreement made in 1948 still prevents the Army from having it's own fleet of CAS aircraft, primarily the A10.
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I honestly don't think so...

What I do think is asinine is the Army and CJCS not hammering the USAF at every turn to hold up their end of the bargain. I've said plenty of times the USAF has done respectable in the CAS arena. However, the fighter pilot mafia has always and will always hate the A-10.

Which is why I think the USAF COS should be an A-10 pilot.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I honestly don't think so...

What I do think is asinine is the Army and CJCS not hammering the USAF at every turn to hold up their end of the bargain. I've said plenty of times the USAF has done respectable in the CAS arena. However, the fighter pilot mafia has always and will always hate the A-10.

Which is why I think the USAF COS should be an A-10 pilot.
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Not a bad idea at all.
 
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LadyVolette said:
Hi Luther! I know you are a teacher lol.. I’m not saying pitch them all out the window.. but I am saying clean them up 😂 but I would prefer a flat tax instead of annual 20 some odd pages of taxes every year.. it just seems so unnecessary for a regular person lol.. it’s just all very bloated as well imo.. modifications to streamline things and make them less partisan are a win for everyone
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I can agree with all of that.
 
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AM64 said:
If the FBI and DOJ had done what should have been done, Hiliary wouldn't have even been a candidate. They basically admitted she screwed up with respect to national security; in fact, the evidence says she just did whatever the hell she wanted and ignored rules and rational behavior. Honestly it seemed like Comey was doing her a favor by saying she screwed up but it wasn't so bad instead of leaving the matter in the wind to be used against her. Sure the timing was bad for her; it could have been better if she didn't have people trying to cover for her.
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There have been communications personnel in the military that went to prison for doing a lot less than she did.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
I see you don't believe it, but frankly, yes I think he didn't push it because he had beaten her and had the attitude let it be. We will never know, but I think that scenario is very likely. Not uncommon at all among alpha males.
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I 2nd this. For Trump it was just a marketing pitch. A catchy phrase. He had no intentions of weaponizing the DOJ against Hillary.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I 2nd this. For Trump it was just a marketing pitch. A catchy phrase. He had no intentions of weaponizing the DOJ against Hillary.
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Lol, the lengths you guys go to in order to defend that buffoon is hilarious.

"a marketing pitch"

😂
 
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Grand Vol said:
I honestly don't think so...

What I do think is asinine is the Army and CJCS not hammering the USAF at every turn to hold up their end of the bargain. I've said plenty of times the USAF has done respectable in the CAS arena. However, the fighter pilot mafia has always and will always hate the A-10.

Which is why I think the USAF COS should be an A-10 pilot.
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It's my understanding that most of the A-10 pilots are reservists or ANG. Not going to make a part-timer the AFCOS.

The poster whose father was a P-47 pilot was right on. It's a brutal mission with little margin for error or malfunction. The pilots didn't join the AF to do ground support, they want to be fighter pilots.

All you need to know is the pilot sits in a titanium bathtub because of all the hits it takes. My favorite characteristic is that there is a drain in the floor of the cockpit so they can just wash out the fecal matter. There was a picture from Desert Storm of an A-10 missing 4 feet of wing, but the pilot got home. I probably would have filled my pants up if I'm 100 feet off the ground at 250 kts and 4 feet of my wing suddenly disappears.

But I've been told one of the most beautiful things in the world is to be engaged with enemy forces and see the A-10s arrive and engage.
 
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hog88 said:
The AF has never wanted the CAS mission.
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Of course they didn't especially with an A10, but smart bombs and lasers changed it. So they gave the A10 which is effective if there are minimum AA in the the area or it can be suppressed long enough.
 
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hog88 said:
What?
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Simply put it is a great CAS aircraft in an uncontested environment. CAS changed with Smart munitions as it lower the risk to reward ratio. Hard to not miss a slow moving aircraft, on a modern day battlefield with all the different types of AA weapons available.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Simply put it is a great CAS aircraft in an uncontested environment. CAS changed with Smart munitions as it lower the risk to reward ratio. Hard to not miss a slow moving aircraft, on a modern day battlefield with all the different types of AA weapons available.
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Thanks for your insight. I don't think anyone here was discussing anything different.

Of course you don't use the A-10 in environments with concentrated AA, you use the high altitude precision guided platforms to take out the AA then you use the A-10s for actual close air support to take out armor and entrenched enemy. The problem is the AF has an entirely different definition of close air support than the Army does.
 
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hog88 said:
Thanks for your insight. I don't think anyone here was discussing anything different.

Of course you don't use the A-10 in environments with concentrated AA, you use the high altitude precision guided platforms to take out the AA then you use the A-10s for actual close air support to take out armor and entrenched enemy. The problem is the AF has an entirely different definition of close air support than the Army does.
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The Air Force has based their decisions on the Risk to Reward.
The problem is that the Air Force thinks you can win a war by bombing an area to death when in essence you can't win a war without controlling the ground. I know you know that, but the Air Force still does not understand it.
 
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Meanwhile back at the Ranch, it appears DJT will be throwing Giuliani and Eastman under the Bus as his Defense. This should a lesson to all those that are associated with Trump as they could be next. All those pardon seekers will be next in line as well as a few others. I am sure that Trump's Defense will also be that he did not tell them to do it and they are lying. As Politics Turn on a Daily Basis what a Soap Opera. It's the Lawyers fault defense.onmorin1121.jpg
 
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Grand Vol said:
@WBO

Here's a good article on the stupidity of the USAF in regards to one of the most effective aerial weapons platforms of all time.

Air Force Leaders Defy Congress’s A-10 Mandates
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This is what happens when you have woke bureaucrats in leadership instead of warriors.

Untold troops will tell you that there are few things that sound more like an avenging angel of death descending with the wrath of God than a Warthog opening up with that gatling gun and cannons with depleted uranium shells. What makes it so good also is that it is hard to shoot down (thick titanium armor) so it can get low and personal with any hostiles, not just some flyby sortie. Like a super fast, heavy armored Apache Heli but way way better.

 
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Gandalf said:
This is what happens when you have woke bureaucrats in leadership instead of warriors.

Untold troops will tell you that there are few things that sound more like an avenging angel of death descending with the wrath of God than a Warthog opening up with that gatling gun and cannons with depleted uranium shells. What makes it so good also is that it is hard to shoot down (thick titanium armor) so it can get low and personal with any hostiles, not just some flyby sortie. Like a super fast, heavy armored Apache Heli but way way better.

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A woke bureaucrat would use this type of fictional media to justify keeping the A10 as a viable option on a modern day battlefield. Helicopters better at deception and detection. Of course it always depends on the mission, scenario and the desired end state.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
A woke bureaucrat would use this type of fictional media to justify keeping the A10 as a viable option on a modern day battlefield. Helicopters better at deception and detection. Of course it always depends on the mission, scenario and the desired end state.
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Or just face the fact the USAF is trying to replace it with an aircraft with 25% of the payload and 10 times the cost with half the mission rates...

Which means the USAF will be hesitant to send it into a low intensity conflict zone we tend to be in and be looking for a dedicated CAS aircraft down the road instead of just improving what they already had.

This whole "it can't survive in a modern battlefield" mantra the higher ups like to spout off goes against the warfare we've been performing the past 30 years. It isn't always going to be high tech.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Or just face the fact the USAF is trying to replace it with an aircraft with 25% of the payload and 10 times the cost with half the mission rates...

Which means the USAF will be hesitant to send it into a low intensity conflict zone we tend to be in and be looking for a dedicated CAS aircraft down the road instead of just improving what they already had.

This whole "it can't survive in a modern battlefield" mantra the higher ups like to spout off goes against the warfare we've been performing the past 30 years. It isn't always going to be high tech.
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Pretty Simple, Depends on the Mission and End State. Costs are not calculated on a battlefield as part of a mission but risks are especially when you consider pilots. $$$$ are figured in Washington DC.
 
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A-10 problem is its legs..short mission radius. Certainly not very useful in a Pacific campaign.
 
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