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Orangeburst said:
Why are you pressing me?
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PYSCHO said:
yes and some on here wanted to hire that fine coach they had because he was from Clampson.
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Tony Elliot probably did the worst job you could possibly do in year one. He forced them to run a Jimbo Fisher complicated pro style offense.

If Bronco Mendenhall didn't leave that UVA team probably wins their division last year.

In 2021 UVA was 21st in offense at 34 pts per game

Brought back their QB and all his weapons

They finished 126th with 17 pts per game

Now they are all gone and they had their tragedy.

They'll start a QB named Tony Muskett from FCS Monmouth, who was good not great at the FCS level.

His first game, with no weapons, an offensive line and offense ranked near the bottom of the FBS will be against who?

The Tennessee Volunteers

I'll actually be shocked if we don't score over 60 points. Perfect for confidence building for our defense!
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Donte Thornton is an athletic freak and is 6'5 running a 4.3..
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I'm looking forward to seeing this kid. Back when he transferred an Oregon fan told me Thornton was legit that fast despite being as big as he is. He said he thought he'd do great in our offense. (He also was a fan of the kid on a personal level so I think his character is pretty good).
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
I think hope is great. It’s when they turn into expectations that things get murky.

I remember during the depths of despair we endured as Vol fans thinking that no one would ever take success for granted again, but we went 11-2 once and now I see stuff like “9-3 is the absolute floor” and I realize I was way wrong. Memories are short.
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I'm not sure I've seen or said "absolute" in reference to our floor next year. The absence of that one word would weaken your argument.

BruisedOrange said:
Well, I don't really have any concerns about this team or staff. I think our players are going to be much improved, our roster improved, and we're going to field a very good team (injuries notwithstanding). I also think we may have the most effective staff in the NCAA.

Next season's win/loss column may not accurately reflect any of this, but... that's college football.

To clarify for the sake of peaceful discussion, I'm only saying that bowl games are unique because of the additional prep time the full coaching staff has. That also includes hours you don't get in regular season from assistants who are collecting and breaking down video weeks in advance of scheduled opponents. With all hands on deck and everyone devoting their time to a single matchup (unless in the playoffs), bowl games are "chess matches" to an extent that regular season games just cannot be.

As for individual performance on those first half blitzes, Beasley's sacks came off of unimpeded sprints toward a freshman quarterback. But I don't think anyone should presume anything from those two plays about how good or bad a linebacker Beasley was or will be. On those plays he was the chess piece, and he did (with speed and great timing) what the coaches prepared him to do. There's no denigration in that.

The intent of my original post was to encourage that we not burden Beasley (or any Tennessee player) with pre-season expectations--not because I don't think he's a good LB, but just to let him keep developing and improving according to his potential, and not have his future play judged by the spotlight role he played (successfully) in a January chess match.

We wouldn't do it to our own sons, and we want this program to be special, to be a family. We want recruits to become Vols For Life.
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As far as discussions go, it's quite the logical leap from, "We've seen him succeed and think he'll be good" to abusing strangers' kids in ways we wouldn't abuse our own.

It feels like there's a huge excluded middle between hope and what you're cautioning against. And in case you haven't been here, @SweetasSoda is one of the last people you should worry about doing so.

It's probably OK to just reply, "Yah. I think he'll probably be good too. Let's all cross our fingers."
 
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Jackcrevol said:
I am not griping. I said they deserved to be brought to their knees. I didnt say nukes werent bad. My point is that had earnt the we gone take over mainland Japan badge.
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I didn't mean that you were...the f'n revisionism around this particular topic infuriates me...

Can you imagine how 💩ty the last 75 years would have been for the WHOLE world had we left that fanatical regime and system in place?....how many more MILLIONS of lives would have been lost dealing with fanatically militant Imperial Japan in the years since?
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Tony Elliot probably did the worst job you could possibly do in year one. He forced them to run a Jimbo Fisher complicated pro style offense.

If Bronco Mendenhall didn't leave that UVA team probably wins their division last year.

In 2021 UVA was 21st in offense at 34 pts per game

Brought back their QB and all his weapons

They finished 126th with 17 pts per game

Now they are all gone and they had their tragedy.

They'll start a QB named Tony Muskett from FCS Monmouth, who was good not great at the FCS level.

His first game, with no weapons, an offensive line and offense ranked near the bottom of the FBS will be against who?

The Tennessee Volunteers

I'll actually be shocked if we don't score over 60 points. Perfect for confidence building for our defense!
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I'll be really surprised if we get up by 4 TDs, Heupel doesn't call off the dogs and goes extremely vanilla with 2nd and 3rd stringers.
 
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I think Donte Thornton is the closest thing to Randy Moss I've seen in awhile...now will he be able to produce like that, we shall see.

Moss 6'3 5/8" and 194lbs at combine with a 4.25s 40...

Dont'e Thornton is listed at 6'5" and 205lbs obviously until he's at combine all the 40 times are just hand timed at various events but 4.3-4.4 has been pretty consistently mentioned when he was in the portal.
 
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