We need POINTS!

#2
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Hank Patrowski said:
I'm happy with the people we have gotten in the portal, but if they cannot create their own shot, what are we doing? If we expect our little off-ball screens to work again this year and hope someone gets open, what's the point?
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Part of guys being able to create their own shot off the bounce is being able to space the floor. Our lack of good three point shooters hurt our spacing which made it all the more difficult for guys to create their own shot. Knecht and Gainey should both be able to help in terms of being able to space the floor.

I suspect we will be much better in terms of guys being able to create off the bounce.
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I'm happy with the people we have gotten in the portal, but if they cannot create their own shot, what are we doing? If we expect our little off-ball screens to work again this year and hope someone gets open, what's the point?
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Watch Dalton play vs Houston. He about scores every point for his team in that game. Imagine him with TN now.
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I'm happy with the people we have gotten in the portal, but if they cannot create their own shot, what are we doing? If we expect our little off-ball screens to work again this year and hope someone gets open, what's the point?
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Um…brother…the three guys we just added to our team bring more than a combined 50 PPG average…far more than we’re losing with the guys leaving. Imagine if this past year’s team had just averaged 10 more PPG. We needed shooters/scorers and it looks like Barnes has found three good ones. We’ll see if they can play big-boy ball and jury’s out until they produce, of course. But, from where I sit, it looks like Barnes went out and recruited exactly what we desperately needed—PPG.
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I'm happy with the people we have gotten in the portal, but if they cannot create their own shot, what are we doing? If we expect our little off-ball screens to work again this year and hope someone gets open, what's the point?
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You must've not even watched Dalton's highlights. Most if not all of the highlights are him creating his own shot lol
 
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I think Ledlum can have a season like Grant’s freshmen season. 12.6 points, 5.9 rebounds, 1.1 assist. Not entirely unreasonable(Just depending on how he practices, etc, but I see him being successful here)

I’m confident Knecht will be up there as well.

You can just about count on Santi averaging 12 a game.

ZZ averaged double digits this, can he replicate it after being injured? Again, I’m confident he will.

After that, we will see.
 
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BisonVol said:
Big Sky. Not a conference to write home about, but shooting almost 40% from 3 pt range and averaging 20 ppg is still impressive.

I don’t expect him to give us 20 per game, but 10-12 ppg is very realistic.
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I just look at a guy like Key who averaged a lot of points in a bad conference and came here and did poorly
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I just look at a guy like Key who averaged a lot of points in a bad conference and came here and did poorly
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While you aren’t wrong that he didn’t work out here, his lack of success doesn’t mean Knecht and Ledlum won’t pan out.

Key’s lack of success here isn’t black and white. He was asked to play point guard a lot which was not a position that came naturally to him. He also also missed the 21-22 season with an injury. I’m not so sure that the injury didn’t have a lasting effect.

All of that to say, I think it is fair to take a wait and see approach with Ledlum and Knecht. However, it’s kind of silly to write the two of them off just because we haven’t done well with transfers recently.
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I just look at a guy like Key who averaged a lot of points in a bad conference and came here and did poorly
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Can we stop with this laziness. If you're not going to bother to actually compare and contrast their games, and are just going to contribute "Both are from bad conferences", you're just wasting everybody's time
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I'm happy with the people we have gotten in the portal, but if they cannot create their own shot, what are we doing? If we expect our little off-ball screens to work again this year and hope someone gets open, what's the point?
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So you're happy with the transfers but a made up narrative you've created has you questioning the decision. It is difficult to describe how worthless that reasoning is. "If we expect?" Who is we? I'm sure the coaches have put a little more thought into it than you have lol.
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I'm happy with the people we have gotten in the portal, but if they cannot create their own shot, what are we doing? If we expect our little off-ball screens to work again this year and hope someone gets open, what's the point?
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buddy people here don't seem to understand what shot creation means

I agree with you 100 percent
 
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I couldn't be more tired of hearing "create their own shots". The vast majority of guys who can "create their own shots" merely get enough space to force a bad shot. We don't need a volume shooter. The team that knocked us out didn't do it by creating their own shots, but by continually hitting the open guy and MAKING the shots. When Rick's offense has worked (and it has at various times) at Tennessee, it has been a team finding the right guys in the right spots and making their shots.
 
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Hank Patrowski said:
I just look at a guy like Key who averaged a lot of points in a bad conference and came here and did poorly
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Hank Patrowski said:
I just look at a guy like Key who averaged a lot of points in a bad conference and came here and did poorly
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I don’t think he did poorly….hadn’t played in almost 2 years after coming off shoulder surgery (which are horrible rehabs) and having to play point guard for the first time in his career had to hamper his overall game. I think he did fine. Phillips was imho the bigger disappointment by far.
 
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papatomany said:
I couldn't be more tired of hearing "create their own shots". The vast majority of guys who can "create their own shots" merely get enough space to force a bad shot. We don't need a volume shooter. The team that knocked us out didn't do it by creating their own shots, but by continually hitting the open guy and MAKING the shots. When Rick's offense has worked (and it has at various times) at Tennessee, it has been a team finding the right guys in the right spots and making their shots.
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Speed is what we need. Speed equals lane drivability. Also mean kick outs when the other team has to crash/send help
both add up to shot creation either way people wanna word it.
We have/had doesn’t work for a natty. Pretty simple to see imo
 
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papatomany said:
I couldn't be more tired of hearing "create their own shots". The vast majority of guys who can "create their own shots" merely get enough space to force a bad shot. We don't need a volume shooter. The team that knocked us out didn't do it by creating their own shots, but by continually hitting the open guy and MAKING the shots. When Rick's offense has worked (and it has at various times) at Tennessee, it has been a team finding the right guys in the right spots and making their shots.
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You may be tired of hearing it but the fact is we arent talking about a volume shooter. We are talking about when the clock is running down and the offense is stagnant we didnt have anyone that could go and get a shot. Other than ZZ we didnt have anyone who could routinely get by anyone. And FAU the reason they hit the open guy is because they constantly beat us off the dribble causing the defense to collapse and thus freeing up shooters. Thats the point you obviously werent getting.
 
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