Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

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SweetasSoda said:
Anybody got anything on our meeting yesterday???
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They won't release info. But if it's good, we'll hear sooner. If it's not going our way, UT will want to delay till summer, hoping for advantageous rule changes or reinterpretations. Only one violation matters to UT: reducing the Failure to Monitor to take the harshest penalties off the table.

That's why Sankey was there-- to protect UT from punishments that would impact the conference/postseason and/or unfairly punish current coaches and players for the malfeasance of those no longer with the program. And UT brought a legal platoon to show that unfair treatment will be met with resistance from a university that can afford to escalate and is backed by a powerful conference that will stand behind its member institutions.
 
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LA Vol said:
They won't release info. But if it's good, we'll hear sooner. If it's not going our way, UT will want to delay till summer, hoping for advantageous rule changes or reinterpretations. Only one violation matters to UT: reducing the Failure to Monitor to take the harshest penalties off the table.

That's why Sankey was there-- to protect UT from punishments that would impact the conference/postseason and/or unfairly punish current coaches and players for the malfeasance of those no longer with the program. And UT brought a legal platoon to show that unfair treatment will be met with resistance from a university that can afford to escalate and is backed by a powerful conference that will stand behind its member institutions.
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BDEnergy. I like it
 
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jave36 said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't see the point of playing teeball/baseball games until they're at an age where they can field grounders and actually get outs. It's not like soccer where basic motor skills are good enough to play the game. If they can't throw to first base, just have practices to teach fundamentals. There's no point in the "hold the ball in the air" games.

Not saying 6-7 is the cutoff, just saying in general that should be the criteria.
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I think it’s good for them as long as the parents don’t treat it like the World Series and the coaches are teaching fundamentals instead of trying to squeeze out a win.
 
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Vols basketball definitely in a bind. With Uros and JJJ they're sitting at 16 scholarships. I think it's a foregone conclusion that JJJ and Uros will being going pro or transferring at this point, but they're still sitting at 14.

So, I guess we wait to see what Phillips does. If he stays, I think there's a short list of players who might not be in orange next winter. Jefferson and Edwards are the short men on the totem pole in that scenario, but we need PGs more than SFs.

The only other option is if Gainey comes as a walk-on. Which I guess is not a major off-the-wall possibility since his dad is the Associate Head Coach... probably could get or has most of school covered through NIL, tuition discounts for employees, etc. So if they could take one for the tean that would be great.
 
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LA Vol said:
Basketball numbers will work out. Only Santi was fully greenlit to return. Phillips wants to declare and has been working toward that since the season ended. UT planned for 1-2 portalers plus Gainey. Coaches are in business mode--if they feel they can upgrade, they will.
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Do you think we have a legitimate shot with Knecht?
 
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VolNash17 said:
There’s a lot of rhetoric in Tide land about Bama returning to the Run dominant more heavier set packages type of offense. Saban apparently jealous of Kirby’s embrace of the “old Bama” and winning the last 2 championships. That’s fine and all. Vols stop the run pretty well. All we need is to keep upgrading the talent everywhere and Tennessee will be up to the challenge of stopping it
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Lol what Saban lost was his elite defense giving up 8-14 ppg under Kirby and later Pruitt with an endless parade of 5*s in his 3 deep.

Now he's rotated so much staff his defense isn't what it used to be and he's ready to deflect blame to the offense when he just had Bryce....freaking...Young 😅😅🤣
 
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Devo182 said:
Lol what Saban lost was his elite defense giving up 8-14 ppg under Kirby and later Pruitt with an endless parade of 5*s in his 3 deep.

Now he's rotated so much staff his defense isn't what it used to be and he's ready to deflect blame to the offense when he just had Bryce....freaking...Young 😅😅🤣
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That was probably an 8-4 team without Young despite all those 5* players...and that's something we should be excited about. Alabama has showed some obvious regression on defense and with overall team discipline (a lot of penalties) two seasons in a row now, which were two things Saban has always stressed more than anything. The signs of decline are there and I think it simply comes down to Saban getting older and just not having it in him to monitor everything in his program like he used to do. Those tiny details are getting missed and that program isn't able to maintain their dominance. Shouldn't be long before Alabama fans start screaming for Saban to retire.
 
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LA Vol said:
They won't release info. But if it's good, we'll hear sooner. If it's not going our way, UT will want to delay till summer, hoping for advantageous rule changes or reinterpretations. Only one violation matters to UT: reducing the Failure to Monitor to take the harshest penalties off the table.

That's why Sankey was there-- to protect UT from punishments that would impact the conference/postseason and/or unfairly punish current coaches and players for the malfeasance of those no longer with the program. And UT brought a legal platoon to show that unfair treatment will be met with resistance from a university that can afford to escalate and is backed by a powerful conference that will stand behind its member institutions.
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volbeast33 said:
I think it’s good for them as long as the parents don’t treat it like the World Series and the coaches are teaching fundamentals instead of trying to squeeze out a win.
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How is that teaching fundamentals, holding the ball in the air? Would be much better using that time for practice where kids get to field dozens of ground balls and practice throwing to first base for the imaginary out. I definitely wouldn't want to spend money on a league where the kids don't even try to throw the out.
 
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Devo182 said:
Lol what Saban lost was his elite defense giving up 8-14 ppg under Kirby and later Pruitt with an endless parade of 5*s in his 3 deep.

Now he's rotated so much staff his defense isn't what it used to be and he's ready to deflect blame to the offense when he just had Bryce....freaking...Young 😅😅🤣
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Wasn't their offense incredible the past few years? I seriously doubt Saban is dumb enough not to realize the offense isn't the problem. Sure maybe a little more clock control might be preferable, but that rumor sounds pretty asinine to me.
 
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LA Vol said:
They won't release info. But if it's good, we'll hear sooner. If it's not going our way, UT will want to delay till summer, hoping for advantageous rule changes or reinterpretations. Only one violation matters to UT: reducing the Failure to Monitor to take the harshest penalties off the table.

That's why Sankey was there-- to protect UT from punishments that would impact the conference/postseason and/or unfairly punish current coaches and players for the malfeasance of those no longer with the program. And UT brought a legal platoon to show that unfair treatment will be met with resistance from a university that can afford to escalate and is backed by a powerful conference that will stand behind its member institutions.
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Donde to the ‘AA
 
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Thing about the NCAA right now is that UT is on top of the PR game. We investigated ourselves and have been transparent. We did everything right and that is the narrative surrounding this case - what everyone from us to outsiders are reading and hearing about the case. Hammering us would be a net loss for the NCAA as other schools would recieve the message loud and clear that cooperation and transparency gets you nowhere and that the NCAA is still more interested in randomly hammering schools than punishing the coaches and assistants who break the rules.
 
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BigSteve09 said:
Oh man, yikes.

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IOW, he's just that damned talented that he's never had to work and the question is going to be when he hits the NFL and has to work, 'will he break or will he put his nose to the grindstone?' That's a question that comes up for a lot of young adults who are gifted be it academically or physically. And honestly, it can only really be answered once it happens. Wright hasn't been consistently challenged and when he was challenged he shut Anderson down so he sees no reason to work. Next level he will see the reason but how he responds is probably 50-50. Some break but some actually excel because for once they're challenged.
 
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jave36 said:
How is that teaching fundamentals, holding the ball in the air? Would be much better using that time for practice where kids get to field dozens of ground balls and practice throwing to first base for the imaginary out. I definitely wouldn't want to spend money on a league where the kids don't even try to throw the out.
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It wasn’t the league….. it was one coach who meant well but wasn’t good at coaching the kids…. I have been around much worse coaches that did more harm to the athletes at middle school age and above.
 
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