Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Devo182]

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**the part about Tillman is very dumb**

moving on:

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Guy on Sirius today said Tillman could go top 50 and was the most overlooked skill player of the entire draft.

Had him the #5 WR overall.

 

[Billy Antrim]

What are you talking about?

Here are the top of the fields from all of the PGA Tour events thus far:

The American Express:
Jon Rahm +550
Patrick Cantlay +950
Scottie Scheffler +1100
Tony Finau +1500
Xander Schauffele +1900
Will Zalatoris +1900
Tom Kim +2000
Sungjae Im +2100
Cameron Young +2100
Sam Burns +2900
Si Woo Kim +2900

Famers Insurance Open:
Jon Rahm +400
Xander Schauffele +1200
Collin Morikawa +1200
Tony Finau +1200
Justin Thomas +1300
Will Zalatoris +1400
Sungjae Im +2000
Max Homa +2200
Taylor Montgomery +2600
Jason Day +2700
Hideki Matsuyama +3100
Si Woo Kim +3300
Sahith Theegala +4200

Pebble Beach:
Matt Fitzpatrick +1000
Jordan Spieth +1100
Viktor Hovland +1100
Maverick Mcnealy +1600
Tom Hoge +1700
Seamus Power +1900
Justin Rose +2400
Andrew Putnam +3100
Joel Dahmen +3300
Keith Mitchell +3300
Denny McCarthy +3400
Matt Kuchar +3700

WM Phoenix Open:
Rory McIlroy +800
Jon Rahm +850
Xander Schauffele +1400
Scottie Scheffler +1500
Tony Finau +1800
Collin Morikawa +1800
Patrick Cantlay +2100
Justin Thomas +2100
Max Homa +2100
Sungjae Im +2700
Viktor Hovland +2700
Hideki Matsuyama +2800
Tom Kim +2800
Cameron Young +2900
Jordan Spieth +3100
Matthew Fitzpatrick +3700

Genesis Open:
Jon Rahm +700
Rory McIlroy +1000
Scottie Scheffler +1000
Xander Schauffele +1400
Justin Thomas +1500
Tony Finau +1800
Max Homa +2000
Collin Morikawa +2100
Sungjae Im +2400
Viktor Hovland +2600
Patrick Cantlay +2600
Jordan Spieth +2900
Sam Burns +3000
Cameron Young +3100
Will Zalatoris +3400
Jason Day +3700
Tom Kim +3700
Hideki Matsuyama +3700
Matthew Fitzpatrick +3700
(+ many more)

Honda Classic:
Sungjae Im +850
Shane Lowry +1400
Aaron Wise +2200
Min Woo Lee +2500
Chris Kirk +2500
Alex Noren +2500
Matt Kuchar +2800
Denny McCarthy +2800
Billy Horschel +3000
Thomas Detry +3500
Taylor Pendrith +3500
Sepp Straka +3500
J.T. Poston +3500
Adam Svensson +3500

Arnold Palmer Invitational:
Jon Rahm +700
Rory McIlroy +950
Scottie Scheffler +1100
Max Homa +1900
Collin Morikawa +2100
Justin Thomas +2300
Xander Schauffele +2400
Will Zalatoris +2400
Tony Finau +2800
Patrick Cantlay +2800
Jason Day +3100
Viktor Hovland +3100
Tyrrell Hatton +3600
Matthew Fitzpatrick +3600
Sungjae Im +4100
Jordan Spieth +4100
Cameron Young +4600
Sam Burns +4800
Tom Kim +5000
Sahith Theegala +5500
Hideki Matsuyama +5500

THE PLAYERS
Jon Rahm +850
Rory McIlroy +850
Scottie Scheffler +1000
Patrick Cantlay +1900
Max Homa +1900
Justin Thomas +1900
Xander Schauffele +2500
Viktor Hovland +2700
Tony Finau +2800
Collin Morikawa +2800
Will Zalatoris +3200
Jordan Spieth +3200
Matt Fitzpatrick +3400
Tyrrell Hatton +3400
Cameron Young +3600
Jason Day +3600
Sungjae Im +3700

Valspar:
Justin Thomas +1000
Jordan Spieth +1200
Sam Burns +1500
Matthew Fitzpatrick +1800
Keegan Bradley +2200
Tommy Fleetwood +2400
Justin Rose +2700
Adam Hadwin +2800
Denny McCarthy +3000

Dell Match Play
Scottie Scheffler +700
Jon Rahm +1000
Rory McIlroy +1200
Patrick Cantlay +1500
Max Homa +1600
Collin Morikawa +1900
Jordan Spieth +2000
Viktor Hovland +2200
Xander Schauffele +2200
Jason Day +2400
Tyrrell Hatton +2500
Tony Finau +2500
Will Zalatoris +2900
Sungjae Im +3100
Tom Kim +3100
Cameron Young +3400
Matthew Fitzpatrick +3700
Tommy Fleetwood +3700
Corey Conners +4200
Sam Burns +4500
Shane Lowry +4800
Keegan Bradley +4800
Hideki Matsuyama +4800
Rickie Fowler +5500

Valero Texas Open
Tyrrell Hatton +1300
Corey Conners +1700
Rickie Fowler +2000
Si Woo Kim +2100
Hideki Matsuyama +2400
Taylor Montgomery +2800
Matt Kuchar +2800
Chris Kirk +3100
Davis Riley +3400
J.J. Spaun +3400
Matt Wallace +3700
Ben Griffin +4100
Thomas Detry +4400
Cameron Davis +4400

The Masters
everyone




so... maybe 2 or 3 dud events if you're not a big golf fan? I've watched and thoroughly enjoyed every week. I think the elevated events have improved this year's PGA Tour. There were always guys that sat out for the "smaller" tournaments.


even this week, The RBC Heritage... it used to be a JOKE because it was the week after the Masters. This might be its best field in recent memory (or ever)
Scottie Scheffler +800
Jon Rahm +850
Patrick Cantlay +1400
Jordan Spieth +1800
Collin Morikawa +1800
Viktor Hovland +2000
Tony Finau +2200
Xander Schauffele +2200
Cameron Young +2200
Matt Fitzpatrick +2500
Justin Thomas +2500
Max Homa +2800
Shane Lowry +3000
Tyrrell Hatton +3500
Sungjae Im +3500
Tom Kim +4000
Sam Burns +4000
Matt Kuchar +5000

Who are Taylor Montgomery, Davis Riley, Matt Wallace, Ben Griffin, and Thomas Detry at the Valero? That's the tournament I was referring to. Granted, I think most of the top golfers skipped this event the week before the Masters. I would rather see guys like Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas than these nobodies, so I turned it off.

By the way, I never said that I wouldn't watch Harbor Town.

 

[Billy Antrim]

why did you have to include racism in your post?

Sorry, should have said good ol' boys. Same guys that have been ruling the sport for years.

 

[barrylee]

In Klubniks defense he was a true freshman making his first official start I believe

While true, why would you feel the need to come to Klubnik’s defense?

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Dad's velvet buck. Finally done. Natural Creations Taxidermy in Clarksville, TN.

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I think that deer worked the AM shift with my cousin at the Newport McDonald's.
















(that's an awesome buck)

 

[SweetasSoda]

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I disagree. It's not just about money, it's a wake-up call to the stodgy old white boys that have been controlling the PGA tour for years. Notice how quickly the PGA tour is changing their rules to try and keep the top golfers they still have?

I don't watch regular tour events anymore because half of the golfers are guys whose names I've never heard of before. Korn Ferry tour players?

Golf is golf. Koepka, Mickelson, and Reed just proved that on Sunday.

LIV is freakin garbage...it is also not a true competition between tours because the goal of the Saudis in doing all this insane has absolute zero with making money off of it....it exist for no other reason than to sportswash their filthy bloody hands.


I hate it most of all for that reason. If somebody wanted to try and start a real golf tour from scratch and try to go toe to toe with the PGA what would happen?....literally nothing.

I hate this stupid ....all it has done is disrupt the game for no good reason.


Take the ridiculous Saudi money out of the equation and none of this garbage is happening.

 

[VolGee4]

Who are Taylor Montgomery, Davis Riley, Matt Wallace, Ben Griffin, and Thomas Detry at the Valero? That's the tournament I was referring to. Granted, I think most of the top golfers skipped this event the week before the Masters. I would rather see guys like Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas than these nobodies, so I turned it off.

By the way, I never said that I wouldn't watch Harbor Town.

There are a lot of good golfers. 4 of those 5 have played in a major, and one already has a PGA victory this season.

I enjoy your posts, but I’m not a huge LIV fan. I get that it got the PGA Tour to make some changes. But it was all about money. The guys who went were mainly on the downside of their careers or injury prone. I laughed at Freddy’s comments about Sergio. This week, Sergio got upset at the media for asking, but he was all about dumping on the PGA Tour on his own when he left. Guy can dish but can’t take it.

 

[tnhunter 10]

Burke with a 2 run HR

 

[SSVol]

LIV is freakin garbage...it is also not a true competition between tours because the goal of the Saudis in doing all this insane has absolute zero with making money off of it....it exist for no other reason than to sportswash their filthy bloody hands.


I hate it most of all for that reason. If somebody wanted to try and start a real golf tour from scratch and try to go toe to toe with the PGA what would happen?....literally nothing.

I hate this stupid ....all it has done is disrupt the game for no good reason.


Take the ridiculous Saudi money out of the equation and none of this garbage is happening.

And yet it's forcing the PGA to make changes benefitting the players, which obviously wouldn't have otherwise happened. Sounds a bit like a monopoly beginning to crumble. Competition usually brings beneficial changes. We'll see. NCAA = bad, but PGA = good? Not so sure about that.

And Saudi money is petroleum money. Maybe EVs aren't as terrible as you think?

 

[BigSteve09]

Who are Taylor Montgomery, Davis Riley, Matt Wallace, Ben Griffin, and Thomas Detry at the Valero? That's the tournament I was referring to. Granted, I think most of the top golfers skipped this event the week before the Masters. I would rather see guys like Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas than these nobodies, so I turned it off.

By the way, I never said that I wouldn't watch Harbor Town.

Yeah that was an unimpressive event. They can't all be winners.

Even still, my point was that you're picking a bad year to skip out on the PGA with all the elevated events luring the top talent and creating exciting finishes week in and week out.

 

[Vol423]

And yet it's forcing the PGA to make changes benefitting the players, which obviously wouldn't have otherwise happened. Sounds a bit like a monopoly beginning to crumble. Competition usually brings beneficial changes. We'll see. NCAA = bad, but PGA = good? Not so sure about that.

And Saudi money is petroleum money. Maybe EVs aren't as terrible as you think?

The PGA tour gives tons of money in charitable donations to the communities in which the tournaments operate (more money than all other professional sports combined). The LIV fund launders money for terrorists.

The PGA Tour gives back to communities, and the numbers can be big -- and complicated.

Money Game: Here's where the PGA Tour's money goes

 

[Devo182]

In Klubniks defense he was a true freshman making his first official start I believe

In defense of defense...he's a mobile QB...quick arm...but he still ended up on his arse a hundred times...their OL got straight WHIPPED...

Which I think was more of OP's point.


Or ya could just say our defense was that great and that would work too

 

[Devo182]

The LIV fund launders money for terrorists.

The LIV's a huge cash drain on their fund...

So anti-terrorist clearly

 

[Devo182]

LIV is freakin garbage...it is also not a true competition between tours because the goal of the Saudis in doing all this insane has absolute zero with making money off of it....it exist for no other reason than to sportswash their filthy bloody hands.

Dear Allah...I think we just agreed

 

[Devo182]

And yet it's forcing the PGA to make changes benefitting the players, which obviously wouldn't have otherwise happened. Sounds a bit like a monopoly beginning to crumble. Competition usually brings beneficial changes. We'll see. NCAA = bad, but PGA = good? Not so sure about that.

And Saudi money is petroleum money. Maybe EVs aren't as terrible as you think?

Though also agree with this silver lining...but wish it would have happened via a different route.

I could see a 3rd route in the next decade. Something competitive with PGA, but based on the actual market...IF the PGA doesn't wake up. LIV is just throwing money, doesn't seem to be a real business model.

 

[UT = Checkmate]

lol wow

shoutout to any of the parents with youngsters

My daughter would watch lol. Crazy thing I kind of like watching too. Some shows are hilarious

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Wadetime]

And yet it's forcing the PGA to make changes benefitting the players, which obviously wouldn't have otherwise happened. Sounds a bit like a monopoly beginning to crumble. Competition usually brings beneficial changes. We'll see. NCAA = bad, but PGA = good? Not so sure about that.

And Saudi money is petroleum money. Maybe EVs aren't as terrible as you think?

Absolutely no defense for the Saudi money imo. They can **** right off, especially with 9/11 in mind. Pure blood money and corruption.

 

[Devo182]

The PGA Tour gives back to communities, and the numbers can be big -- and complicated.

Money Game: Here's where the PGA Tour's money goes

It appears to be a sad excuse for a charitable NP (which I really don't even expect it to be...so not quite a knock on them)

Direct contributions of only 6% land at their reported causes....so 94% goes to "overhead".

Total revenue-to-charity, including all of their entities, is still only 16%.

Imagine giving $100 to a charity and realizing only $16 is actually going anywhere. The standard is 65%+. The best hit 90%+.

I mean it's better than nothing, sure, but if someone is really giving money for a good cause, this ain't it. Give it to the fund of 5 Star Vols. You, too, can feed a 5 star for only a dollar a day

 

[Devo182]

Absolutely no defense for the Saudi money imo. They can **** right off, especially with 9/11 in mind. Pure blood money and corruption.

Yup.

But hey, a few years ago they said they saw the errors of their way and thought extremism was one of the kingdom's biggest threats. So, we're all good now...

And while we're at it we'll also believe the CIA and US gov't are no longer funding their own international cloak guerrila programs.

Yup, definitely clean this time

 

[Vol423]

It appears to be a sad excuse for a charitable NP (which I really don't even expect it to be...so not quite a knock on them)

Direct contributions of only 6% land at their reported causes....so 94% goes to "overhead".

Total revenue-to-charity, including all of their entities, is still only 16%.

Imagine giving $100 to a charity and realizing only $16 is actually going anywhere. The standard is 65%+. The best hit 90%+.

I mean it's better than nothing, sure, but if someone is really giving money for a good cause, this ain't it. Give it to the fund of 5 Star Vols. You, too, can feed a 5 star for only a dollar a day

It's a total of over $3 billion in charitable contributions as of 2020, more than all other professional sports combined.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Y’all are not talking golf on the last week of spring football practice surely! There’s even a TN baseball game on.