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DC_Vol said:
I can’t help but notice you sure are selective about your sources when it comes to things that reflect poorly on the Democrats.

Here we have a diary with a page in the middle of it in the same handwriting, and you are willing to dismiss it. While it’s not “proof”, it’s still compelling. And, as Hog pointed out, hasn’t been denied.

On the other hand, you have a long history of accepting information about Trump that was far less compelling. Some if it was so flimsy it just took a little bit of thinking to realize it had a low probability of being true. I don’t recall you being so discerning of sources then.

At a minimum, this suggests to me you should spend more time thinking and less time discerning which sources you think are valid. Because you’re not so good at it.
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I didn't select the source.

The source is Project Veritas because they paid Robert Kurlander and Aimee Harris for the diary, and then were in physical possession of it for close to a month before finally taking it to the police.

That isn't compelling evidence at all, considering that it was in the possession of Project Veritas for close to a month, and they have revealed themselves to be capable of crimes such as bribery and forgery in the recent past. I have posted evidence of their acts of dishonesty up above. You should click on those links and learn something about who you are trusting in this matter.
 
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hog88 said:
Knock yourself out but just so you know, I’m not wasting my time reading them. IDC
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This was the response that I expected.

You accused me of imagining things, but when I posted evidence of Project Veritas going to unlawful extremes, in order to fabricate evidence? You don't care. That is because the truth is only a matter of inconvenience to the right-wing, when it doesn't support your narrative. You prefer the lies to be left unchecked.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This was the response that I expected.

You accused me of imagining things, but when I posted evidence of Project Veritas going to unlawful extremes, in order to fabricate evidence? You don't care. That is because the truth is only a matter of inconvenience to the right-wing, when it doesn't support your narrative. You prefer the lies to be left unchecked.
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I believed you when you posted that PV was shady. But I think your forgery theory is a little far fetched.
 
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hog88 said:
I believed you when you posted that PV was shady. But I think your forgery theory is a little far fetched.
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Would you have believed that Project Veritas would try to bribe the key witness to lie for them in a voter fraud investigation before you knew who they were? How is that less egregious than forgery? Once again, they had the diary in their physical possession for a month.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Would you have believed that Project Veritas would try to bribe the key witness to lie for them in a voter fraud investigation before you knew who they were? How is that less egregious than forgery? Once again, they had the diary in their physical possession for a month.
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Don’t need PV to know how prevalent voter fraud is….especially with the mail in bs.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I didn't select the source.

The source is Project Veritas because they paid Robert Kurlander and Aimee Harris for the diary, and then were in physical possession of it for close to a month before finally taking it to the police.

That isn't compelling evidence at all, considering that it was in the possession of Project Veritas for close to a month, and they have revealed themselves to be capable of crimes such as bribery and forgery in the recent past. I have posted evidence of their acts of dishonesty up above. You should click on those links and learn something about who you are trusting in this matter.
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I never claimed to trust him. I was pointing out that you have different standards based on what you want to believe.

Regardless of the source, I find your forgery theory to be low probability. It’s not based on the source. It’s just based on reasoning.

1- it looks legit
2- it’s in the middle of a longer diary
3- they’ve never denied it’s hers
4- they sued to get it back
5- Joe Biden is a creep with children. He has groomer behaviors

I didn’t need a source for any of that, see?
 
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DC_Vol said:
I never claimed to trust him. I was pointing out that you have different standards based on what you want to believe.

Regardless of the source, I find your forgery theory to be low probability. It’s not based on the source. It’s just based on reasoning.

1- it looks legit
2- it’s in the middle of a longer diary
3- they’ve never denied it’s hers
4- they sued to get it back
5- Joe Biden is a creep with children. He has groomer behaviors

I didn’t need a source for any of that, see?
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Smelling and groping kids is normal behavior, bigot, so your whole post is null and void.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Perhaps .... but you can f*** with the wrong people sometimes in life.

People with good judgment know better than to cross state lines to sell a diary which belongs to the daughter of the next President of the United States. They were asking for trouble, and they found trouble.
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That sounds like an excuse for tyrannical behavior. Biden's political position doesn't justify the actions taken.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I never claimed to trust him. I was pointing out that you have different standards based on what you want to believe.

Regardless of the source, I find your forgery theory to be low probability. It’s not based on the source. It’s just based on reasoning.

1- it looks legit
2- it’s in the middle of a longer diary
3- they’ve never denied it’s hers
4- they sued to get it back
5- Joe Biden is a creep with children. He has groomer behaviors

I didn’t need a source for any of that, see?
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1) In order to assess how it looks, you would need possession of the whole diary. Not just the selected portions which people with an anti-Biden agenda want you to see.

2) LOL. Pages can easily be implanted in long books. That is your weakest argument.

3) It is hers ... she just hasn't confirmed or denied having written those entries. It wouldn't change anyone's opinion if she did say they were forgeries. People like yourself, would just start calling her a liar. At least now, you leave her alone. I don't blame her for wanting to keep it that way. She is a mostly private person.

4) So what? That proves nothing. It was hers. Why shouldn't she get it back?

5). There is no proof that he has sexually abused a child. The inappropriate touching on video that you are describing as being creepy is just that ... but it's not sexual abuse.

You simply don't like Biden. You want to believe that he sexually abused his daughter. That's creepy in its own right.
 
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You can't get around the fact that Project Veritas is the source. It absolutely does call everything into question. It is ridiculous to suggest that the involvement of Project Veritas in this matter isn't suspicious and significant. They were in possession of the diary for a month. They wanted to sabotage the Biden Campaign. Give me a damn break!!!!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You can't get around the fact that Project Veritas is the source. It absolutely does call everything into question. It is ridiculous to suggest that the involvement of Project Veritas in this matter isn't suspicious and significant. They were in possession of the diary for a month. They wanted to sabotage the Biden Campaign. Give me a damn break!!!!
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Triggered ^^^^ :)
 
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The republican folks who throw around pedo are disgusting. Literally horrible people. There is no worse accusation you can throw at someone.


It's their version of when the Dems call everyone racist. Also disgusting. They should stop doing that too.
 
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EasternVol said:
That sounds like an excuse for tyrannical behavior. Biden's political position doesn't justify the actions taken.
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Also, in regards to Robert Kurlander and Aimee Harris, it hasn't been widely reported but upon finding the diary, their first call was to the Trump Campaign, and they requested $200K for it. To their credit, a lawyer for the Trump Campaign told them no right away ... and then directed them to take it to the FBI. Instead, they called Project Veritas.

In that light, their actions are not quite so innocent. They were seeing dollar signs from the moment they found that diary, and allowed themselves to be guided by greed.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
1) In order to assess how it looks, you would need possession of the whole diary. Not just the selected portions which people with an anti-Biden agenda want you to see.

2) LOL. Pages can easily be implanted in long books. That is your weakest argument.

3) It is hers ... she just hasn't confirmed or denied having written those entries. It wouldn't change anyone's opinion if she did say they were forgeries. People like yourself, would just start calling her a liar. At least now, you leave her alone. I don't blame her for wanting to keep it that way. She is a mostly private person.

4) So what? That proves nothing. It was hers. Why shouldn't she get it back?

5). There is no proof that he has sexually abused a child. The inappropriate touching on video that you are describing as being creepy is just that ... but you could not charge someone with a crime for it, however.

You simply don't like Biden. You want to believe that he sexually abused his daughter. That's creepy in its own right.
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I don’t know with certainty if it’s real or not. It’s simply a probability assessment. Based on what I’ve seen I’d say there is a much higher probability it is real than a forgery. It really has nothing to do with whether I want it to be true. In fact, I would hope it’s not true (even if the entry is real).

If we go back to my original point, though…why were you not so discerning when it came to Donald Trump? You consistently believed and propagated nonsense only supported by Mr. Unnamed Source. Over and over again. Now we’ve got to see all the evidence before we can make a judgment?
 
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DC_Vol said:
I don’t know with certainty if it’s real or not. It’s simply a probability assessment. Based on what I’ve seen I’d say there is a much higher probability it is real than a forgery. It really has nothing to do with whether I want it to be true. In fact, I would hope it’s not true (even if the entry is real).

If we go back to my original point, though…why were you not so discerning when it came to Donald Trump? You consistently believed and propagated nonsense only supported by Mr. Unnamed Source. Over and over again. Now we’ve got to see all the evidence before we can make a judgment?
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I disagree and I do not think you are giving the significance of Project Veritas's involvement it's appropriate weight. Show me an investigative reporter who would bribe an interview subject, and I will show you an investigative reporter who would oversee forgery.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I disagree and I do not think you are giving the significance of Project Veritas's involvement it's appropriate weight. Show me an investigative reporter who would bribe an interview subject, and I will show you an investigative reporter who would oversee forgery.
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Why bother bribing an interview subject? The liberal left just makes crap up, so no bribes are necessary.
 
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volfanhill said:
The republican folks who throw around pedo are disgusting. Literally horrible people. There is no worse accusation you can throw at someone.


It's their version of when the Dems call everyone racist. Also disgusting. They should stop doing that too.
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If you’re talking about me, I am not, nor have I ever, accused Joe Biden of being a pedo.

He does, however, exhibit creepy behavior with children. It’s inappropriate and clearly shows he has no respect for boundaries that most people understand. There’s plenty of evidence of that.

Showering with your daughter past a certain point would be consistent with that.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I disagree and I do not think you are giving the significance of Project Veritas's involvement it's appropriate weight. Show me an investigative reporter who would bribe an interview subject, and I will show you an investigative reporter who would oversee forgery.
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I get it.

Now about your trust in Mr. Unnamed Source…
 
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