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hog88 said:
I remember when I was a kid somewhere around 13 and listening to my dad and one of his friends talking. Dad's friend worked at some factory and the union was threatening to strike. He was telling my dad they had agreed to everything but the company wouldn't compromise on new hire wages and told the union if they strike they would close the plant. The union walked out and the plant closed. That has always stuck with me.
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Labor sure does have the upper hand these days. No replacements.
I am curious to see the rail strike. Congressional declarations will just make it nastier.
 
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hog88 said:
I remember when I was a kid somewhere around 13 and listening to my dad and one of his friends talking. Dad's friend worked at some factory and the union was threatening to strike. He was telling my dad they had agreed to everything but the company wouldn't compromise on new hire wages and told the union if they strike they would close the plant. The union walked out and the plant closed. That has always stuck with me.
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Sounds almost like the company was considering other plans and the plant was on the line as it was. Generally you get the impression that unions have the upper hand because the company has too much invested in a plant to just walk away, and unions know that. Maybe this was one time the union didn't know as much as they thought they did.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Labor sure does have the upper hand these days. No replacements.
I am curious to see the rail strike. Congressional declarations will just make it nastier.
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What do the rail unions win? They run up rail costs, and transported goods cost more. The escalation in wages without any change in efficiency drives others to do the same to try and keep up with inflation; the government steps in and raises minimum wages. It's simply an inflationary cycle that has caused the US to lose industry to places that don't do the same dumb thing.
 
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AM64 said:
What do the rail unions win? They run up rail costs, and transported goods cost more. The escalation in wages without any change in efficiency drives others to do the same to try and keep up with inflation; the government steps in and raises minimum wages. It's simply an inflationary cycle that has caused the US to lose industry to places that don't do the same dumb thing.
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According to Space, airlines are somehow tied into the brotherhood, and so on and so on and so on.
The most important issue is COL which never is addressed. Higher wages dont mean squat.
 
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Orangeburst said:
According to Space, airlines are somehow tied into the brotherhood, and so on and so on and so on.
The most important issue is COL which never is addressed. Higher wages dont mean squat.
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Cost of living is just going to be there - it is what it is. The problem is when people think they can use mob rule to get a leg up on the COL. Union workers get a short term boost, COL goes up because manufacturers and services have to raise prices and everybody is right back where they started - just more uncompetitive with international labor and manufacturers. That's the real problem unions are either too damn stupid to get it or they simply too selfish to care. Union mob rule subverts the normal rules guiding supply and demand.
 
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AM64 said:
Cost of living is just going to be there - it is what it is. The problem is when people think they can use mob rule to get a leg up on the COL. Union workers get a short term boost, COL goes up because manufacturers and services have to raise prices and everybody is right back where they started - just more uncompetitive with international labor and manufacturers. That's the real problem unions are either too damn stupid to get it or they simply too selfish to care. Union mob rule subverts the normal rules guiding supply and demand.
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Rail unions are running railroads out of business. Unions are a cancer.
 
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From today's news...

Biden: Why were the Indians here first?

Harris: Because they had reservations.

Tough room

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Orangeburst said:
According to Space, airlines are somehow tied into the brotherhood, and so on and so on and so on.
The most important issue is COL which never is addressed. Higher wages dont mean squat.
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We have the same handcuffs on our contracts in the form of the Railway Labor Act which really means our contracts don't expire, they just become amendable. That means we have to continue working under the same contract until a new one is negotiated. For us to strike, it takes a long time to work thru the system. But the punk ass government needs to stay the **** out of it.
 
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AM64 said:
Cost of living is just going to be there - it is what it is. The problem is when people think they can use mob rule to get a leg up on the COL. Union workers get a short term boost, COL goes up because manufacturers and services have to raise prices and everybody is right back where they started - just more uncompetitive with international labor and manufacturers. That's the real problem unions are either too damn stupid to get it or they simply too selfish to care. Union mob rule subverts the normal rules guiding supply and demand.
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Yeah, wrong. I already took one for the team. Not interested in that anymore
 
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AM64 said:
Sounds almost like the company was considering other plans and the plant was on the line as it was. Generally you get the impression that unions have the upper hand because the company has too much invested in a plant to just walk away, and unions know that. Maybe this was one time the union didn't know as much as they thought they did.
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Same thing happened with the Peterbilt and Perelli plants in Nashville. Peterbilt just spent millions on upgrades and told the UAW if they struck they would shut it down. They struck and no more Peterbilt in Nashville.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Rail unions are running railroads out of business. Unions are a cancer.
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I think quality of life, time off is the big issue with the railroad workers. They’re on 2 hour call windows every 4 hours once they finish a shift. Or something close to that.
 
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hog88 said:
I think quality of life, time off is the big issue with the railroad workers. They’re on 2 hour call windows every 4 hours once they finish a shift. Or something close to that.
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Yeah honestly I think they have some valid gripes. I was salaried IE white collar slave labor and I’d never be able to put up with the availability requirements they levy on them.
 
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