McCollough Assault Case not Done

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What we already know is that there is 3 people's word against 1 and the 1 was disoriented and arguably intoxicated, entered the apartment by mistake but illegally, and then got punched in the mouf.

I don't see how they indict him unless there's more witnesses that corroborate the victim's story. 3 v 1 should be more than convincing enough.
 
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Voldawg1970 said:
I wonder if this changed the university's perspective? What if ue gets indicted does he get removed from the team again???
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This was a surprise to the university. I shouldn’t be surprised though as TN can’t have nice things. BVS - 😆.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
What we already know is that there is 3 people's word against 1 and the 1 was disoriented and arguably intoxicated, entered the apartment by mistake but illegally, and then got punched in the mouf.

I don't see how they indict him unless there's more witnesses that corroborate the victim's story. 3 v 1 should be more than convincing enough.
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An indictment isn’t too difficult to obtain as the DA doesn’t have to provide much evidence. In this case, McCollough (allegedly) assaulted someone when there was not a threat to him being harmed. I’m not saying I agree but stating what the DA will say.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
The dude gave a police statement while completely blasted while continuing to drink out of the bottle of vodka . How is this still going ?
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Because the Knoxville Police Department and the surrounding legal arm are human pieces of trash, full stop.

They've always gone after students rather than doing an actual decent damn job where really needed. I'm usually fine with police, but the most abuse, aggression, and misplaced small weiner-driven anger I have ever seen has come out of KPD officers both when I was a student and on gamedays when I go back now.
 
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vol94 said:
An indictment isn’t too difficult to obtain as the DA doesn’t have to provide much evidence. In this case, McCollough (allegedly) assaulted someone when there was not a threat to him being harmed. I’m not saying I agree but stating what the DA will say.
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You're right and its a giant waste of time and taxpayer money not to consider both sides before charging someone. IM not saying they should weigh all evidence, but I guarantee this DA has much bigger fish to fry than some drunk guy's missing teeth. Can the DA win? Is there enough evidence to convince the court that the crime was committed? The DA has to make that decision. Unless we are missing a lot of info from the "victim", the answer to that is no.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'd guess the grand jury will indict. Generally you only get the prosecution's side of the story there. But it's entirely possible some members may have actually heard McCollugh's side.
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Sometimes prosecutors take cases to the grand jury for them to no bill though. The grand jury is faceless and essentially unaccountable. In controversial cases where a dismissal may be warranted but nobody wants to take the heat or the liability they take it to the grand jury and let them punt the case. Then you can shrug your shoulders if x person later kills someone and say "well, the grand jury didn't indict". We'll see what happens.
 
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Vol524 said:
SMH It's almost like Knoxville hates the University.
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Idk. I have a good friend here who is a cop, and he does training in Athens often. He told me recently that the cops down there act like it's a badge of honor to get to arrest a football player. I wonder if Knoxville is like that? It just shocked me, cause you'd figure the home team would get away with a lot by the local pd. I'm sure it's different every where though.
 
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Andrew Jackson IV...he should have to revoke that name after not having the guts to just throw this out.
No way there's any evidence McCullough committed a crime here.
Judge is taking the word of one drunken man - who admits he was drunk at the time and wanting to get more drunk - over two guys that were sober and in better mental faculty at the time.

Only thing that would send this to grand jury is the lawyer using the defense of the drunk guy 'being forcible' to enter and stay in the apartment.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
It's back folks, it's back. :mad:

Source: Jaylen McCollough assault case sent to grand jury for investigation
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He will be fine. Everything the “victim” said doesn’t make seance.
1. Left to go to the car to get more Vodka and become “disoriented”. On his way back? I assume since he was on his way back he got the other bottle of Vodka out of his car he went for? He wasn’t to “disoriented” to find his car, but yet to disoriented to realize what building he come out of and apartment in broad daylight? Yea right! He was flat out drunk and should have been arrested himself when he was holding an open container at a “crime scene”. It was 3:30pm(broad daylight). It’s one thing to get turned around then dark in an unfamiliar area. But he was able to clearly see the entire area he was in.
2. Said he knocked on the door and no one answered. I call bull$h!t Why would he knock on a door he just left out of if he thought it was the right apartment? He only found out it was wrong apartment supposedly after he enters. How many of you that has been to a party, or a friends house and you go outside and knock on the door every time you leave and come back inside after just “stepping” outside to the car?
3. A swig of Vodka? He was holding an empty bottle while being interviewed. It was more than a swig. Or was it a swig out for the 2nd bottle he went to get out of the car?

I am no lawyer or on the grand jury, but if I was this wouldn’t make any seance to me at all. McClough is gonna be fine. Surely im not the only one that sees it this way?
 
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Doesn't surprise me. The Knox county justice system loves to make spectacles of innocent athletes and since AJVI position is appointed he doesn't have to worry about any political heat. The DA does though but she probably also knows anyone with a D beside their name or a record that aligns with D isn't getting elected in Knox county.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Because the Knoxville Police Department and the surrounding legal arm are human pieces of trash, full stop.

They've always gone after students rather than doing an actual decent damn job where really needed. I'm usually fine with police, but the most abuse, aggression, and misplaced small weiner-driven anger I have ever seen has come out of KPD officers both when I was a student and on gamedays when I go back now.
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I’ve had interactions w/ KPD both good and bad. One guy got me out of a ticket and then a couple guys were dicks bc they harassed us for no reason and went through our apartment looking for weed. I don’t understand why stupid things like this keep seeing the light of day. Stuff like this doesn’t happen in TTown, Tallahassee or most other places. Getting a dui or gun charge is one thing, but something like this is garbage.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
What we already know is that there is 3 people's word against 1 and the 1 was disoriented and arguably intoxicated, entered the apartment by mistake but illegally, and then got punched in the mouf.

I don't see how they indict him unless there's more witnesses that corroborate the victim's story. 3 v 1 should be more than convincing enough.
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You sure it was mistakenly? Why would be knock on the door that he just come out of minutes prior? He was already supposed to be at a friends house. No need to knock on the door and announce your presence. That’s his own words, that he knocked on the door and went in after door was unlocked? Nah this was a test to see if anyone was home, and when they didn’t answer he checked the door knob and it was unlocked and he goes inside to steal something and was shocked to see they was home. So he had to make up an excuse. Chances are he’s been to those apartments before and knows his way around s and just not gonna get turned around or confused where your at during middle of the day.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
There are two witnesses. They both support JM’s story.
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I'm no lawyer, but pretty sure witnesses don't come into play in a grand jury hearing. Just the prosecutor, explaining why it is worth the court's time to consider the case.

VolArmy74 said:
Yes, but it's rare for any defense to be presented at grand jury hearings. There's an old saying that a prosecutor can indict a paper bag in front of the grand jury.
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The phrase is a ham sandwich. That most grand juries will indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor asks them to. Originally penned by Tom Wolfe in the book, Bonfire of the Vanities.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I'm no lawyer, but pretty sure witnesses don't come into play in a grand jury hearing. Just the prosecutor, explaining why it is worth the court's time to consider the case.


The phrase is a ham sandwich. That most grand juries will indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor asks them to. Originally penned by Tom Wolfe in the book, Bonfire of the Vanities.
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Yea. Grand juries are the worst part of our "justice" system.
 
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