War in Ukraine

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norrislakevol said:
Now, what will be interesting is Russia's next move. If the Ukrainian advance continues, then what will they do? Actually declare war? Gonna be an interesting few weeks.
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They probably have two option... put more dog **** in or the more immediate deadly approach. I would imagine move the Malkas closer to the front with low yields, but one can't discount the possibility of inflecting a Hiroshima moment in Kiev with low yield. The low yield neutron bomb approach might make sense as well there by cutting off support to the front. The possibilities are kind of endless with what they have available.

Three Words That Describe The Russo-Ukrainian War

Interesting article, basically what I have been saying for a week. People will most likely continue to die there for some time.

Ukraine's Top General Doesn't Rule Out 'Limited' Nuclear War

Okay, so what's your plan bro?

The war is now onto Europe/Germany.

"Without Energy, No Economy Can Run": German Companies Warn Of Disaster As Electricity, Gas Taps Are Turned Off

“More and more companies are telling us that they no longer have a supply contract for electricity or gas at all. The tap is turned off in the truest sense of the word,” DIHK President Peter Adrian told the RND newsroom.​
“But without energy, no economy can run.”​
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That sounds familiar. LOL Modern civilization needs energy, and cheap energy.... otherwise, back to the caves you go Germans. Maybe you guys could hang out with the Ukrainians in the cave and use bear fur as clothing.
 
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Germans overwhelmingly want to keep supporting Ukraine, despite high energy prices.
 
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tvolsfan said:
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But that isn't what happened at all. LOL

The United States/Europe supposedly imposed sanctions but not really. Europe was putting loop holes in there, why? They don't have supply, at that point they had supply but they are paying 5-10 times as much. All Russia has done is closed the loop holes themselves on an escalating basis. The problem isn't so much 2022, its 2023 and beyond. And Europe isn't addressing the problem... so the problem is going to get worse.

With that said, I think we probably hit peak prices for the short-term (expect OPEC to cut on the oil side)... as we're all probably heading to recession at the best and depression as a possibility.... global reset can't be discounted completely.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
But that isn't what happened at all. LOL

The United States/Europe supposedly imposed sanctions but not really. Europe was putting loop holes in there, why? They don't have supply, at that point they had supply but they are paying 5-10 times as much. All Russia has done is closed the loop holes themselves on an escalating basis. The problem isn't so much 2022, its 2023 and beyond. And Europe isn't addressing the problem... so the problem is going to get worse.

With that said, I think we probably hit peak prices for the short-term (expect OPEC to cut on the oil side)... as we're all probably heading to recession at the best and depression as a possibility.... global reset can't be discounted completely.[/QUOTE
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Not sure if you've been in a coma. It has literally been Russia's only card. other than the nuclear threat.
 
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tvolsfan said:
A stronger military and a diversified economy, clearly.
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Obvious they do have a strong military, you just don't like their strategy, clearly. As far as the economy, not sure what the problem is... they'll have plenty of food and heat for the winter, unlike some neighbors. LOL

Obviously they do have considerable economic weight as they have more or less forced what is effectively a $2+ trillion margin call on their neighbors this week.

The economic war is only getting started, we'll see how it turns out... the outcome to the Ukraine is more or less known. (not good)
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Obvious they do have a strong military, you just don't like their strategy, clearly. As far as the economy, not sure what the problem is... they'll have plenty of food and heat for the winter. LOL

Obviously they do have considerable economic weight as they have more or less forced what is effectively a $2+ trillion margin call on their neighbors this week.

The economic war is only getting started, we'll see how it turns out... the outcome to the Ukraine is more or less known. (not good)
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Putin doesn’t like their strategy, either, since he keeps sacking his generals.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Putin doesn’t like their strategy, either, since he keeps sacking his generals.
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Well, I'm sure he would rather not pulled out the arsenal if at all possible, but the end result is still known. You could put all the world's armies in the Ukraine to fight there for the Ukraine... they will still lose. Matter of fact, they would lose that much quicker, see Congressional Record already posted. The United States knows there is no winning there, and they've known it for well over 25 years.

So, why is the United States/Europe giving the Ukrainians all this **** again? Oh, so they can beat the bad Russians.

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The Americans will support the Ukraine until the last dying one. LOL
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They probably have two option... put more dog **** in or the more immediate deadly approach. I would imagine move the Malkas closer to the front with low yields, but one can't discount the possibility of inflecting a Hiroshima moment in Kiev with low yield. The low yield neutron bomb approach might make sense as well there by cutting off support to the front. The possibilities are kind of endless with what they have available.

Three Words That Describe The Russo-Ukrainian War

Interesting article, basically what I have been saying for a week. People will most likely continue to die there for some time.

Ukraine's Top General Doesn't Rule Out 'Limited' Nuclear War

Okay, so what's your plan bro?

The war is now onto Europe/Germany.

"Without Energy, No Economy Can Run": German Companies Warn Of Disaster As Electricity, Gas Taps Are Turned Off



That sounds familiar. LOL Modern civilization needs energy, and cheap energy.... otherwise, back to the caves you go Germans. Maybe you guys could hang out with the Ukrainians in the cave and use bear fur as clothing.
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Boy I don't know if I can see even a small nuclear strike. I think that Putin knows the ramifications.

I think we all know what lead to the rise of Nazi Germany before World War II. It was something somewhat similar to this. Winter will be interesting.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Boy I don't know if I can see even a small nuclear strike. I think that Putin knows the ramifications.

I think we all know what lead to the rise of Nazi Germany before World War II. It was something somewhat similar to this. Winter will be interesting.
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That has been the strategy since before Putin was moonlighting as a taxi cab driver. It has nothing to do with Putin really. That is why all these agreements were setup, without the ability to nuke Ukraine at will the defense strategy fails. We'll see how it turns out, but at the end of the day its better to use tactical nukes on someone else's land than on one's own.

Congress finally figured this out in 1997-1999 and were in the process of pulling the string, so they had to find a new enemy (enemies) which was their old friend and old enemy.

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The United States knew the Russian strategy since the fall of the USSR, everyone did or does, they make no secrets. That's the only reason the Ukraine exists in its present form. Russia has the largest non-strategic nuclear force in the world for a reason, of course all nuclear weapons are strategic.

Will Russia use those weapons, I would hope the United States would if it came to it. In essence, all of Russia's defense strategy is based on the ability to use various tactical nukes before the enemy can reach the border.

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IluvdoubleD's said:
If I were russia, I would be terrified of my own nukes. being that many of thier rockets have already returned to sender.
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That is why they need the Ukraine to be cleared, to move the tactical gear into other's land, the more area they have cleared... the better opportunities for nuclear artillery in particular. Malkas have a range of like 25-35 miles, with the ability to send 1-2kton shells I believe. Think Hiroshima divided by 10-20. A shell to take out a smaller town, say 3-5 to take out a good size city.

Low yield, can be low radiation, however it appears they have the ability to deliver low yield and high radiation neutron bombs as well.

They can deliver via cruise missile, but they also have the hypersonic ones which probably can't be intercepted. Gravity bombs also exist in that format.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I specifically remember Dallas and some of his other trolls wishing Moldova would invade Transnistria and take that land back lol. He wants to deny that along with the multiple tantrums he's thrown as well. Although his tantrums are mild compared to the ones Zeppelin throws.

What he forgets and more than likely doesn't even know is there was already a conflict over this and Transnistria won.
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LMAO I’m sure you specifically remember that. I specifically remember a bunch of Pootin ass kissers make excuses for unrest growing in Transnistria prodded by Russia as Russia approached Odessa. Seems we specifically remember it different Curly 🤡
 
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norrislakevol said:
Boy I don't know if I can see even a small nuclear strike. I think that Putin knows the ramifications.

I think we all know what lead to the rise of Nazi Germany before World War II. It was something somewhat similar to this. Winter will be interesting.
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I don’t think that idiot Pootin would go nuclear unless Russia was itself was invaded. And I have to believe some resistance would finally show up if Crimea comes back in play. Of course idiot Pootin considers Crimea Russian now soooooo…. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Back to the real world.

Europe Fails To Agree On Russian Gas-Price-Caps Faced With "Hard-Core Physical Reality"

Leading the way in pointing out the flawed logic of the plan, Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto pointed out the blowback would be worse than the sting aimed at Russia. "If price restrictions were to be imposed exclusively on Russian gas, that would evidently lead to an immediate cut-off in Russian gas supplies. It does not take a Nobel Prize to recognize that," he said.

Echoing prior words of Hungarian leader Viktor Orbán, he said "The plan that would impose a price cap exclusively on Russian gas coming via pipelines is entirely against European and Hungarian interests."
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But back to reality, Hungary's Szijjarto said it best upon entering the meeting: "This morning … we will do our utmost to make Brussels finally understand that gas supplies are not an ideological or political issue, but one of hard-core physical reality."
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There is no realistically way of doing a "cap" in the current context. So, they are "talking" which had zero chance of producing anything of value. You have the same people that created Europe's problem(s) trying to solve the problems they created.

The solution has to be a long-term plan which will take place over 10-30 years, all this short term stuff is basically immaterial. To 1980s USSR and from there back to the caves.

Modern Europe.

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