War in Ukraine

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NorthDallas40 said:
No. It shows a bunch of Russians sitting around with their thumbs up their asses and going north where for three months Moe. Just like he said.
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Interesting that they start the clock at 06/02/2022 instead of 02/24/2022. Also, even if they didn't gain an inch of ground since June (which we both know is false), the Russians would still be winning.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Interesting that they start the clock at 06/02/2022 instead of 02/24/2022. Also, even if they didn't gain an inch of ground since June (which we both know is false), the Russians would still be winning.
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Oh they have most definitely stalled out Moe. And this is another of those Pyrrhic victories.

On a three hour tour. A three hour tour… 😂🤡
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Has there been any word on if these Warthogs were involved in the Kherson counteroffensive? The way you guys talked, it would have been well suited for this mission.
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Don’t know, but if they were, they probably ****ed some Russians up that thought they were safe in their little BMR.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
It's great see people there are free to gather, protest and speak their mind. For a decades they were forced to keep their heads down and mouths shut.
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Kind of like Turkey, some NATO countries took up the lost art. My guess if someone protested too much in the Ukraine... to the front line you go.

Those people might as well be throwing their money into the furnace this winter to stay warm.... completely idiotic. Thank god they can bitch about it.

"He guys, I know you're spending 7 times your normal energy bill for no reason.... but we're listening."

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Than Hitler. LOL

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Just imagine trying to look to the people that created the mess, to try and get you out of the mess. LOL

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Hunerwadel said:
It's great see people there are free to gather, protest and speak their mind. For a decades they were forced to keep their heads down and mouths shut.
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And funny how the worm turns, because now in North America, we have ourselves moving in that authoritarian direction.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Has there been any word on if these Warthogs were involved in the Kherson counteroffensive? The way you guys talked, it would have been well suited for this mission.
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It would seem like the United States and Europe should be supplying Green Warthogs with power supplied by a couple of lithium battery packs. Maybe that front cannon should be fitted to shoot shells made of bio-degradable paper. Like a giant spit ball or something.

This "Ukraine War" is going to be...the gift that keeps giving.

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The warthogs were basically phased out due to.... being worthless in combat against Russia in Europe. Why? See Congressional Record. ----> Vaporization <--------> Gone in instant at a 180,000,000 degrees F.

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Yes.
Computer: Russia vs. Ukraine?
Yes.

- Give Ukrainians 5,000,000 man army.

Simulation Results: Ukrainians lose.

- Give Ukrainians 10,000,000 man army, 10,000 Abraham Tanks, 10,000 Pieces of Artillery.

Simulation Results: Ukrainians lose.

- Give Ukrainians 20,000,000 man army, 20,000 Abraham Tanks, 20,000 Pieces of Artillery, 1,000 F-22s, 100 B-2s, and 50,000 various high tech drones.

Simulation Results: Ukrainians lose.

- Give Ukrainians 40,000,000 man army, 40,000 Abraham Tanks, 40,000 Pieces of Artillery, 5,000 F-22s, 1000 B-2s, and 500,000 various high tech drones.

Simulation Results: Ukrainians lose.

Computer: Strange game.... the only winning move is for the Ukraine not to play. But you dipshits should have already knew that, its been in the Congressional Records for 25 years. Stupid humans. Maybe someone needs to bring me to Moscow so that I can hang out with Putin. He at least has strippers, and get me a web cam because I can't see.
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Those stupid white Ukrainian soldiers might as well attack NATO because that is who set them up for the loss.

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Rasputin_Vol said:
They need to step up their whataboutism game. They throw out whataboutisms in an effort to side track an argument. On the other hand, I guess when we throw out whataboutisms, it is to juxtapose two or more similar items and ask why our behavior and thinking is one way in this instance but 180 out of phase on other similar situations... in other words to point out the hypocrisy and flaws in their logic.
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Ironic post is ironic..
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Interesting that they start the clock at 06/02/2022 instead of 02/24/2022. Also, even if they didn't gain an inch of ground since June (which we both know is false), the Russians would still be winning.
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It's called net gains..not "what Russia couldn't keep"...or as I like to say as a play on words and an old Nintendo game, Rush'N'Retreat
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
They need to step up their whataboutism game. They throw out whataboutisms in an effort to side track an argument. On the other hand, I guess when we throw out whataboutisms, it is to juxtapose two or more similar items and ask why our behavior and thinking is one way in this instance but 180 out of phase on other similar situations... in other words to point out the hypocrisy and flaws in their logic.
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There's been a few times on here me, you and a few others have presented good arguments and they do whatever they can to sidetrack it like you said. Or the other common tactic is for 4 or 5 or more of their trolls to show up and jump on people like a pack of hyenas.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They would be vaporized in the Ukraine. Its like saying how would the U.S. forces fair against India if all they use is sticks and stones, its moot. You don't determine what the other side uses.
The Russians are not going to invest $800b per year into their military as that is a waste of money.

The Russians probably wouldn't fair well in most places unless they went fully dark i.e. they took out all the grids and all the satellites. At that point, I actually think they could do better but its mostly moot.
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How much of that 800b gets skimmed off by Russian Oligarchs? Answer: A bunch of it. The Russians don't have anything that can touch the F22 Raptor or the FA18 Super Hornet. The U.S. would have air superiority and would wipe the Russians out eventually. You know that the U.S. spends more on defense than any other nation, right?
 
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DonjoVol said:
The way they talked, if the U.S. just gave them a couple of those Warthogs it would have won the war for Ukraine.
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They could give them a thousands of them and it doesn't really change anything other than time tables and specific details which are mostly moot.

Mr. President and colleagues, let me repeat. George Kennan, the
architect of containment, said as recently as March 15 that,
``Expanding NATO would be the most fateful error of American policy in
the entire post-world war era.''

That is a pretty serious statement by someone who has great
credibility based on his record. He is not alone in that assessment.
Former Senator Nunn, who enjoyed enormous respect on both sides of the
aisle in this Chamber, has discussed a dangerous contradiction at the
center of the argument for expansion, saying that while enlargement is
intended to protect former Soviet satellites, nothing else is as likely
to remilitarize Russia and endanger those very countries as NATO
enlargement.

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By rejecting NATO enlargement, we would simply be choosing not to
embark on a dangerous and unjustified course of enlarging NATO and
would avoid making a terrible mistake in the course of U.S.-Russian
relations.

[Congressional Record Volume 144, Number 50 (Wednesday, April 29, 1998)]
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By the late 90s, Congress figured out the majority of the high price weapons system being procured where useless against Russia if it decided to defend itself in Eastern Europe. They (defense contractors) had to find a new use for these systems and quickly.

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So, now the defense contractors have to find a new place to stick these system, where the stupid white man is willing to die for no reason i.e. Ukraine.

The United States has known for 25-30 years that there is no defeat of Russia in Eastern Europe regardless of the offense used. The purpose of arming Ukraine is to keep the defense contractors making money, in turn money laundering.... a side note is the attempt to destabilize Russia. They will gladly allow all Ukrainians to die for the unwinnable cause.

All of the crocodile tears from politicians, media and strange people of the world is quite funny to watch. If they really cared about the Ukrainians, they would tell them to turn around and attack NATO.
 
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norrislakevol said:
How much of that 800b gets skimmed off by Russian Oligarchs? Answer: A bunch of it. The Russians don't have anything that can touch the F22 Raptor or the FA18 Super Hornet. The U.S. would have air superiority and would wipe the Russians out eventually. You know that the U.S. spends more on defense than any other nation, right?
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You serious, Clark?

The answer to your strange questions/comments is its moot. They all melt at 180 million degrees F.

You know that the U.S. spends more on defense than any other nation, right?
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YOu mean what I already posted? There is no reason for Russia to spend that kind of money, and without spending that kind of money... there is no situation where they lose in that area of operation. See Congressional Record. The United States will probably continue to spend money on stupid military equipment, have people die for no reason with endless wars.... until its global printing press stops working.

Why is the United States spending so much on defense budgets? Well, the answer is... they're not for defensive purposes. Duh.

But... the United States isn't doing bad things. LOL
 
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