War in Ukraine

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Velo Vol said:
They sure do have a hard time maintaining their pipe.

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volgr said:
Failure, or what Monty would call, another "shaping operation".
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Even if the Ukrainians were to counter and win battles, and start to reclaim property to the East including Crimea... they haven't figured out the end result of that?

There is simply is no realistic win move for them.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Some are definitely looking at it that way, no doubt. Ukraine is still doing what any other country that is attacked militarily does - Fight.
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And Russia is doing what any other country would do if their people are attacked and if a foreign power threatens to move in military assets to a neighboring country.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And Russia is doing what any other country would do if their people are attacked and if a foreign power threatens to move in military assets to a neighboring country.
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If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. - Sun Tzu (The Art of War)
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The outcome is basically known, just not the final irrelevant details.

There was probably a "war" for about a hour while the Russian troops crossed the border, once they got a few miles in.... the war was over.

The one hour war.
 
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apevol said:
if they've gotta nuke ukraine they're pathetic
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That is the strategy since the 90s, its no secret. Its a tactical nuke landing zone. What you think Russia is there for? To clear the way off the border for the tactical nukes if needed.

There is no win. The only winning strategy for the Ukraine was not to play. Too late now.

Their doctrine really hasn't changed since the end of WWII.

[Congressional Record Volume 144, Number 50 (Wednesday, April 29, 1998)] [Senate]

Congress discovered it, but not really... Russians have made it well known since the collapse of USSR what they would do.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That is the strategy since the 90s, its no secret. Its a tactical nuke landing zone. What you think Russia is there for? To clear the way off the border for the tactical nukes if needed.

There is no win. The only winning strategy for the Ukraine was not to play. Too late now.

Their doctrine really hasn't changed since the end of WWII.
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There are no nazis coming for Moscow. Nor does what you just typed at me have anything to do with their military being pathetic. If they need to nuke Ukraine to achieve their objectives, they're in pitiful shape.
 
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apevol said:
There are no nazis coming for Moscow. Nor does what you just typed at me have anything to do with their military being pathetic. If they need to nuke Ukraine to achieve their objectives, they're in pitiful shape.
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That is the only reason the Ukraine exists... clear landing spot for tactical nukes. That is why the Russians are there. LOL

[Congressional Record Volume 144, Number 50 (Wednesday, April 29, 1998)] [Senate]

Russia told everyone. LOL

There is no win, the Ukraine lost. Why? Because they listened to stupid white people from DC. Russia already knows the likely outcomes.

they're in pitiful shape.
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Russia has no way of defending against a ground force across all fronts, the strategy is not new. Tactical nukes are the great equalizer, you wipe out the other person's army in a dozen launches.
 
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volgr said:
Dallas was also cheering inconsequential gains outside of Kharkov a few months ago while ignoring the very consequential losing of Popasnaya. He has already admitted he is here to troll.
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Oh you mean where they stopped the Russians from taking the second largest city in Ukraine and still hold it to this day? That Kharkiv Larry?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Oh you mean where they stopped the Russians from taking the second largest city in Ukraine and still hold it to this day? That Kharkiv Larry?
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I mean those small inconsequential gains they made outside of Kharkiv, which have already been lost to Russia again, while losing hugely consequential ground in the Donbas that of course you never mentioned because your troll game is lame.
 
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volgr said:
I mean those small inconsequential gains they made outside of Kharkiv, which have already been lost to Russia again, while losing hugely consequential ground in the Donbas that of course you never mentioned because your troll game is lame.
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So Russia has Kharkiv Larry?
 
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