Roe vs Wade Overturned

[creekdipper]

Also, pro abortion is such a stupid thing to say. Nobody is pro abortion. There is a majority of people that are prochoice.

This is clearly incorrect and easily refuted by even a cursory internet search. There are people proudly and loudly saying that they love abortion.

 

[creekdipper]

You're saying that there are pro-choice people out there who would admit that abortion is murder? That's...interesting.

As far as I know, they all claim that it is not murder. That's how they rationalize it. That'd be quite something for a pro-choicer to say "Yeah, it's murder, but the woman should be allowed commit one if she doesn't want the child." I've never heard any of them claim that.

I remember a pro-abortion friend's words so distinctly that I can quote her verbatim thirty years later:

"I don't care if it is murder...it's still my body."

 

[creekdipper]

No, until it's actually born it is a potential person.

I cannot kill you, but your existence doesn't endanger mine or force me to take responsibility for your life.

No, "potential" means hypothetical. No one schedules or commits abortions on ideas. Actual living entities' lives are "terminated...with extreme prejudice."

I'm a "potential" NBA All-Star, but it hasn't happened yet, and I've been waiting for almost seven decades for that to happen. On the other hand, billions of examples from everyday human experiences observed in even the most primitive, "unscientific" societies have demonstrated that the pregnancy usually results in a live birth of a human.

That's not "potential." That's factual, observable, data-driven reality. Science, not magic or superstition...or propaganda.

 

[Majors]

This is clearly incorrect and easily refuted by even a cursory internet search. There are people proudly and loudly saying that they love abortion.

They brag about body counts with no shame.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

No, "potential" means hypothetical. No one schedules or commits abortions on ideas. Actual living entities' lives are "terminated...with extreme prejudice."

I'm a "potential" NBA All-Star, but it hasn't happened yet, and I've been waiting for almost seven decades for that to happen. On the other hand, billions of examples from everyday human experiences observed in even the most primitive, "unscientific" societies have demonstrated that the pregnancy usually results in a live birth of a human.

That's not "potential." That's factual, observable, data-driven reality. Science, not magic or superstition...or propaganda.

Until a live birth occurs it is potential. Many a slip between the cup and lip.

 

[luthervol]

I remember a pro-abortion friend's words so distinctly that I can quote her verbatim thirty years later:

"I don't care if it is murder...it's still my body."

I've known some anti individual freedom people who were nuts.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

 

[Orangeburst]

Where is the Summer of Rage? My guess is they were told it is bad optics for Puddinhead and to knock it off for now.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Madam I assure you your body is safe.

 

[Vol8188]

"State's Rights" falls apart when you think about it. Should some American citizens be less than others?

That’s not what state’s rights means at all. But good try. It means the citizens of those states have a right to self govern.

Or do you think the smaller states should just have to go along with the majority of the country regardless?

 

[Vol8188]

Do y'all not believe in equal rights?

Of course. I’m just not convinced you know what equal rights means. It doesn’t mean if people in California can $### in the streets, so can you.

It means if you $### in the streets, the law should you the same as anyone else who does so within that jurisdiction

 

[Vol8188]

There is no baby. No one is advocating this.

There’s a separate human life that you are okay with ending without provocation.

 

[Vol8188]

Until a live birth occurs it is potential. Many a slip between the cup and lip.

It’s not potential at all. What’re you talking about? It already exists.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Yes this is extreme but when you have a total ban on abortion that doesn’t take into account any extenuating circumstances, this is what happens.

Woman May Be Forced to Give Birth to a Headless Baby Because of an Abortion Ban

 

[VolStrom]

Yes this is extreme but when you have a total ban on abortion that doesn’t take into account any extenuating circumstances, this is what happens.

Woman May Be Forced to Give Birth to a Headless Baby Because of an Abortion Ban

Please let us know when you give birth to a headless child.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Please let us know when you give birth to a headless child.

Do you not agree that birth defects exist? Or genetic defects?

 

[VolStrom]

Do you not agree that birth defects exist? Or genetic defects?

Sure do, and I absolutely defend a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy when it cannot be brought to term.

 

[RikidyBones]

Babies sometimes have defects that include not having a head, therefore, we should be able to kill them for convenience, whenever is a weird stance.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

How is this not punishment? Not mature enough to have an abortion but definitely mature enough to raise a child?

Florida court says teen is not 'mature' enough to have an abortion

 

[Ashevolle]

Louisiana hospital denies abortion for fetus without a skull

 

[Ashevolle]

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[Vol8188]

Yes this is extreme but when you have a total ban on abortion that doesn’t take into account any extenuating circumstances, this is what happens.

Woman May Be Forced to Give Birth to a Headless Baby Because of an Abortion Ban

No state has a total ban, and spreading this disinformation is harmful to women. Just like when cnn lies and claims ectopic pregnancies cannot be removed

 

[Vol8188]

Louisiana hospital denies abortion for fetus without a skull

Funny you blame abortion laws rather than yourselves for this one. As stated within the article and by the doctors, this abortion is legal under state law.

Seems like the real problem is the disinformation from the media and yourself that convinces providers they may be doing something illegal

 

[zeppelin128]

That’s not what state’s rights means at all. But good try. It means the citizens of those states have a right to self govern.

Or do you think the smaller states should just have to go along with the majority of the country regardless?

States should, and do, largely manage their own affairs. But some things should transcend "state's rights", like equality and equal rights. Should states be allowed to discriminate against any group they wish?

 

[volfanhill]

States should, and do, largely manage their own affairs. But some things should transcend "state's rights", like equality and equal rights. Should states be allowed to discriminate against any group they wish?

The only protections for "all" are those outlined by the constitution. Everything else up to the state. So my position in gay marriage, for example, is that the feds shouldn't be involved in marriage. States can do what they want with it. Now I also believe gov has no business in marriage at all.