War in Ukraine

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DonjoVol said:
Once again. If Russia is getting their asses handed to them then Ukraine has no need for that 40 billion. You guys are providing us the argument and material as to why they don't need it.
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You really are simple minded aren’t you Curly.

Ukraine has the will power but not the means.

The west has the means.

Etc etc…
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ukraine is dealing with their own problems. I’m not happy about it but since the bastards invaded and started this I am enjoying a little schadenfreude at the expense of the Russian Keystone Cops.
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Yeah and at the expense of billions of our dollars. I am sure we couldn’t use any of that 🙄🙄
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
All atrocities committed against civilians are wrong. If there is evidence of such behavior then it should be brought before a tribunal with the power to exact punishment. Even against Ukraine.

However it’s going to take more for a conviction than the word of Russian state media or their paid mouth pieces Curly. And your whataboutism doesn’t carry any water like you think it does.
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There is evidence of these atrocities. Me and others have pointed this out.

There is no whataboutism here. Quite frankly the "Whataboutism" responses are getting quite old. It's becoming the same thing as democrats calling people racist or anti semite when someone doesn't agree with their political views.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Take a good look at the books on that table Ras. The edges of the pages are clean and white. Most of the covers are shiny and new. That is not a cache of material that has been passed around and read by a bunch of soldiers. This was clearly staged.
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Nuh-ugh that's real Nazi stuff we collected from our conscripts....... I mean Ukrainian soldiers!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Why don’t you write your Congressman about it?
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I shouldn’t have to. But would it do any good? No. Our worthless politicians don’t care about us citizens. But the poor Ukrainians definitely deserve our help. Tell me, we’re the American people asked about all this money being given to those corrupt idiots? No. Just like every other country we give money to for no reason.
 
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DonjoVol said:
There is evidence of these atrocities. Me and others have pointed this out.

There is no whataboutism here. Quite frankly the "Whataboutism" responses are getting quite old. It's becoming the same thing as democrats calling people racist or anti semite when someone doesn't agree with their political views.
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It’s textbook whataboutism Curly. Your premise is since people are ok with atrocities by Ukraine then they can’t complain when Russia does it. It’s all bad if it occurs and anybody charged with committing them needs to be prosecuted. This isn’t that hard.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
All atrocities committed against civilians are wrong.
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Glad you now agree with Putin. Considering Ukraine was preparing for an offensive in the Donbas, home of many atrocities committed by Ukraine forces since 2014, what other option did Putin have but to protect the people of the Donbas from further atrocities and go in to liberate them from Ukraine?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Right. Typical response. What else do you call it? Why should we be involved at all? Is it our problem?
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Actually from the Budapest Agreement we signed in 1994 yes we have obligations to assist Ukraine. The Pootin stooges will/have claimed that doesn’t apply anymore but the only party making that claim is Pootin and he does it for convenience so that he can do his land grab. You should read more?
 
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volgr said:
Glad you now agree with Putin. Considering Ukraine was preparing for an offensive in the Donbas, home of many atrocities committed by Ukraine forces since 2014, what other option did Putin have but to protect the people of the Donbas from further atrocities and go in to liberate them from Ukraine?
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The last person I would agree with is Pootin. Put the evidence before a tribunal. Protip: Russian state media isn’t a tribunal I realize it’s hard for you to understand that Larry
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s textbook whataboutism Curly. Your premise is since people are ok with atrocities by Ukraine then they can’t complain when Russia does it. It’s all bad if it occurs and anybody charged with committing them needs to be prosecuted. This isn’t that hard.
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It's not textbook "Whataboutism". The terms "Whataboutism" and "Non sequitur" are thrown around when people are too cowardly to debate their own talking points.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s textbook whataboutism Curly. Your premise is since people are ok with atrocities by Ukraine then they can’t complain when Russia does it. It’s all bad if it occurs and anybody charged with committing them needs to be prosecuted. This isn’t that hard.
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Lol. And that's not my premise at all. Show me where I have specifically stated what you are accusing me of.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Actually from the Budapest Agreement we signed in 1994 yes we have obligations to assist Ukraine. The Pootin stooges will/have claimed that doesn’t apply anymore but the only party making that claim is Pootin and he does it for convenience so that he can do his land grab. You should read more?
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Not really. The assurances of that were murky at best. But we know our worthless politicians have decided to help a corrupt nation. Decided to impose heavy sanctions that have hurt us here at home. But that doesn’t matter right? As long as red man gets beaten.

Some of you just cannot see the Forrest because of the trees.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Lol. And that's not my premise at all. Show me where I have specifically stated what you are accusing me of.
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Ok. Let’s start with the post I responded to that got you going on your current stupidity laced diatribe Curly.
DonjoVol said:
There is evidence of these atrocities. Me and others have pointed this out.

There is no whataboutism here. Quite frankly the "Whataboutism" responses are getting quite old. It's becoming the same thing as democrats calling people racist or anti semite when someone doesn't agree with their political views.
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