War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Do you think that NATO, under the current frenzy they are in right now, will condemn The Poles from going in?
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I think you are making up fanciful scenarios in attempt to justify what Russia has done. If Poland actual invades Ukraine to take land, let me know and I will admit I was wrong. Until then, let us stick to the actual war or "special operation" that is ongoing in Ukraine.
 
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825VOL said:
I think you are making up fanciful scenarios in attempt to justify what Russia has done. If Poland actual invades Ukraine to take land, let me know and I will admit I was wrong. Until then, let us stick to the actual war or "special operation" that is ongoing in Ukraine.
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I've already given Russia's reason for going in without needing to use Poland.
 
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volfanhill said:
I thought he liked Vlad bc he was different then our leaders. You would think he would at least say "yep I was wrong about him. No better then Bush blah blah blah." Can't even do that.
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He’s too invested to pull out now. Plus I think it’s quite clear he admires both Putin and the Russian dictatorship. I’d guess he will shill for whomever the next dictator is too.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well there you go. You were one of the ones in here that didn't believe the C-19 nonsense, but now you use those same media reports to solidify the reports from Ukraine when you know good and damn well that the Obama and now Biden Administrations have financial interests in that country.

They have worked you into an emotional frenzy, meanwhile, they are ready to throw billions of dollars into this conflict to feed the MIC and flood the black markets of Europe with weapons that they will have to deal with with for the next 5-10 years minimum.
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The only time I was emotional was in the initial suprise of the invasion, thinking "**** sake, we're going to see world war three'.

I can't recall ever getting behind arming the ukrainians, or even the sanctions.

I can see that Biden, and Europe along with him have chosen to try to use Ukraine as a way for regime change in Russia.

I don't know if this is a good idea because I don't believe anything I'm reading about who's winning and I don't even honestly know how I feel about Ukraine gunning for Crimea.

What I do know is if Russia succeeds, we are facing at the least a new cold war, with both sides suffering from contracted economies. If they lose, who knows. Reset with the world waiting to find out how bad the next guys gonna be. Or someone ****s up and we all go to war.

None of this is at all related to the fact that people who commit heinous crimes and let the witnesses live are genuinely mental defectives. You don't let hostages go unless you get something in return.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've already given Russia's reason for going in without needing to use Poland.
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Yes, you have given your opinion and your reasons. However, myself and most others on here do not agree with your justifications. If Poland invades Ukraine, let me know and I will loudly admit that I was wrong and you were right. Until then, let's keep on topic.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ah it was 3 minutes and Iraq whataboutism. Ok.
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It wasn't even an Iraq whataboutism. WTF are you talking about? He was explaining precisely that the people reporting this information were the same ones that reported the narrative in Iraq. That isn't a whataboutism. That is pointing out the credibility of British intelligence.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It wasn't even an Iraq whataboutism. WTF are you talking about? He was explaining precisely that the people reporting this information were the same ones that reported the narrative in Iraq. That isn't a whataboutism. That is pointing out the credibility of British intelligence.
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He was using whatsboutism to attack the messenger and ignore the message Moe. Just like you do every day here when you shrug off anything negative to Russia while dropping Russian state media and Russian paid stooges as sources. And we all see it.

Like I said I listened enough to hear his deflection play and then I cut it off. SSDD.
 
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825VOL said:
Yes, you have given your opinion and your reasons. However, myself and most others on here do not agree with your justifications. If Poland invades Ukraine, let me know and I will loudly admit that I was wrong and you were right. Until then, let's keep on topic.
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Where and when have I strayed off topic? I've simply made a prediction alongside the commentary that I've made in real time.

So I am not allowed to prognosticate Poland's entry in the same way you guys prognosticate in here Ukraine's next moves?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
He was using whatsboutism to attack the messenger and ignore the message Moe. Just like you do every day here when you shrug off anything negative to Russia while dropping Russian state media and Russian paid stooges as sources. And we all see it.

Like I said I listened enough to hear his deflection play and then I cut it off. SSDD.
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That isn't whataboutism. It is precisely being critical of the messenger based on past history.

Look at how you guys have distorted that term to the point that now, anything that goes against your narrative is whataboutism.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That isn't whataboutism. It is precisely being critical of the messenger based on past history.

Look at how you guys have distorted that term to the point that now, anything that goes against your narrative is whataboutism.
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LMAO got it. Our whataboutism bad but your whataboutism is solid proof Moe 🤡
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Where and when have I strayed off topic? I've simply made a prediction alongside the commentary that I've made in real time.

So I am not allowed to prognosticate Poland's entry in the same way you guys prognosticate in here Ukraine's next moves?
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No, you are free to speculate on anything you want. That is the magic of message boards. I try to engage you and others with honest conversations, but I won't engage on this topic because I think it is as likely as me winning the lottery without buying a ticket. Until you get back to a realistic conversation, I will use the other magical part of message boards and ignore your hypotheticals.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You have abused that term. That guy was going directly at the credibility of the source of the report, not using another example in history to justify present day actions.
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You earned it Moe. After all the tripe you e posted as soon as he pulled up “but what about Iraq” I cut it off and was not hearing anything more. That is a result of your own self defeating efforts in shilling for Pootin.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Did you read that article or did you read the headline? Show me in that article clear and precise evidence that Antonov was "hinting" at anything that would really come close to Russia ready to capitualte.
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You should read it. it's full of good information like the US is giving Putin the terms for negotiations.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You have abused that term. That guy was going directly at the credibility of the source of the report, not using another example in history to justify present day actions.
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"Whataboutism", "Non Sequitur", calling people POS and nut jobs. This is quite the crew over here pushing the Ukrainian propaganda. What's even more hilarious is when you give them a dose of their own medicine they'll play victim and claim you started it LMAO.
 
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