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Mark Richt was 63-29 (.685) from 2009 - 15 (the relevant timeframe), while Patterson was 70 - 20 (.778), and a healthy chunk of Richt's wins came against bad Tennessee teams.
Patterson coached at a program that was at a huge disadvantage in terms of resources while Richt coached at arguably the best job in all of college football (#2 IMO, but certainly top 5 in terms of recruiting, facilities, etc). Richt had perennial top 5 classes; Patterson haf classes anywhere from #25 - #55.
I don't think there's a good argument that Richt was a better coach than Patterson. Richt was a good coach, but it's an easy decision between the two for me.
What is ironic is that Richt got 4 of those wins from 2000-2003. Casey could beat Florida but couldn’t get over the UGA hump. He royally stunk against the Dawgs his senior season. He missed his junior year and we almost pulled off the upset with James Banks lined up at QB after we pulled Leak real quick.Richt had a .740 at Georgia, Patterson was a .696 at TCU. I'll consider that pretty equal. I think Richt was 10-6 vs us. But My math and memory could be wrong. Patterson probably would have changed the numbers. Not sure if he would have come out on top.
He would have been much better than Kiffin/Dooley/Butch/Pruitt.
And to top if off, the University gave Hamilton a cool 1 million dollars that we didn't owe him in appreciation for his time here.Let me preface this by saying I despise Kiffin. That said the problem wasn’t Kiffin. The problem was the contract that Kiffin was signed to and the fact that the idiot that signed him to that was allowed to make another hire after Kiffin bolted. How Hamilton was allowed to hire another coach is just a great mystery to me?
I still want to think if Hamilton had not given Kiffin the no buyout for SC in his contract and he stayed, if he could have turned the program around. I know at that time he was arrogant and immature but I think he would have matured and been better than the ones that followed. He had his Dad there as DC who could have helped reign him in. And if he could kept us out of NCAA trouble. Water under bridge now I know but I want to believe we would not have stayed in purgatory as long with him there.
I like the cavalier use of “we”. It is interesting that the disdain for MID-MAJOR HC hires prevailed tho in a wide swath of our fanbase. That was TCU at the time of that hiring and Utah when Meyer was hired.So we didn’t think Patt could handle the big stage…….but we thought Dooley and Butch could??
Let me preface this by saying I despise Kiffin. That said the problem wasn’t Kiffin. The problem was the contract that Kiffin was signed to and the fact that the idiot that signed him to that was allowed to make another hire after Kiffin bolted. How Hamilton was allowed to hire another coach is just a great mystery to me?
Patterson was only .595 once TCU joined the Big XII. TCU tied for one conference championship since they joined a power 5 conference. That year (2014), TCU lost to Baylor and finished 8-1 in the conference. Baylor also had only one conf lost, but the Big XII decided to award co-champions even though Baylor won the head-to-head.Richt had a .740 at Georgia, Patterson was a .696 at TCU. I'll consider that pretty equal. I think Richt was 10-6 vs us. But My math and memory could be wrong. Patterson probably would have changed the numbers. Not sure if he would have come out on top.
But hiring a coach that never was a head coach in college and had losing record as a pro (Lane Kiffin) was a better choice. Or what about hiring a coach that had a losing record prior to UT(Dooley) or a coach that even a high shcool wouldn’t have as a HC (Pruitt)? Someone actually thought these 3 coaches was somehow better than Patterson. I am glad we finally have some competent/qualified people running the school and Athletic Department.Looking back on the University’s numerous bad decisions, I’m so thankful we finally have an competent AD in Danny White that truly wants to win. Hamilton is a huge reason why we sucked for 10+ years due to his massive ego. I wonder how things would have turned out if we had replaced Fulmer with Patterson whenever we had the chance?
That’s a big leap. Patterson wasn’t a possibility after Kiffin…left on his own call. Hamilton didn’t pass on him for Dooley and Fulmer certainly didn’t pass on him for Pruitt.But hiring a coach that never was a head coach in college and had losing record as a pro (Lane Kiffin) was a better choice. Or what about hiring a coach that had a losing record prior to UT(Dooley) or a coach that even a high shcool wouldn’t have as a HC (Pruitt)? Someone actually thought these 3 coaches was somehow better than Patterson. I am glad we finally have some competent/qualified people running the school and Athletic Department.
Well I’m just simply stating that Gary Patterson at the time was the better option as a college coach than Kiffin. At the time Kiffin was really unproven as a HC. But even if Patterson wasn’t an option after Kiffin, there was still better options than Dooley, Butch, And most Definitely Pruitt.That’s a big leap. Patterson wasn’t a possibility after Kiffin…left on his own call. Hamilton didn’t pass on him for Dooley and Fulmer certainly didn’t pass on him for Pruitt.
But the point of the thread was MORE bellyaching from Patterson over Hamilton picking Kiffin over him. Maybe better AD’s would’ve made better choices…not arguing theories on that one.Well I’m just simply stating that Gary Patterson at the time was the better option as a college coach than Kiffin. At the time Kiffin was really unproven as a HC. But even if Patterson wasn’t an option after Kiffin, there was still better options than Dooley, Butch, And most Definitely Pruitt.