War in Ukraine

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utvolpj said:
So were advances in weapons and alliances yet you act like they couldn't foresee those.
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I’ll wait with bated breath for the eloquent passages quoting their thoughts on blitzkrieg, mechanized weaponry, drones, and satellite communications….
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Got your talking points huh? Well too bad they suck. Ukraine had the nukes. They were theirs. Period. That isn’t event debatable. The entity the owned them before didn’t exist anymore. However the new entity that was formed did sign the agreement to guarantee Ukraine’s safety. That is fact. And all you can do is try to sell why it was ok for them to break that agreement. And nobody other than you specific Three Stooges will buy it, Larry. 🤡
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I love The Three Stooges. One of the greatest comedies of all time. Probably second behind Seinfeld.
 
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apevol said:
Move to a conflict ravaged country as a sex tourist, become a quisling for the invaders when they show up. What was the goal here?
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The goal is to get people to buy into Ukraine. They have succeeded. Putin is trash and Russia is a joke outside of providing energy to the rest of Europe.
 
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The theatrics, virtue signaling and propaganda reaches a new peak with each passing day...

"I'm Done Talking" - MSNBC Analyst Quits To Fight Russians In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

The 61-year-old has authored several books that accuse Russia of planning to "destroy democracy" and getting Donald Trump elected president to "betray America."

Reid asked Nance whether he was in "any special danger" because "you clearly are not Ukrainian when they see you." He replied that Moscow had waged war against everybody.
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OHvol40 said:
Did they prophesy everything that has happened technologically and geopolitically the last 250 years? Can you prophesy what happens in the next 250? Should future generations hang on our current leader’s words in a quarter millennia? Doubtful.
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No of course not. But sound advice transcends technology advances.

Humanity hasn’t changed much over the last 250 years just their tools.
 
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luthervol said:
lol....The very first Federalist Paper, which is pretty much giving the foundation for the rest, is mainly a warning about people with your views. You are the problem about which we were warned. (of course I knew that all along, just glad to see Hamilton concur)
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Hamilton opposed the Bill of Rights. Think about that for a minute.
 
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volgr said:
No spin needed. Ukraine never had nukes to give up. They were Soviet nukes that were still under Soviet control at that time. Ukraine had no way to use them, maintain them, and had no infrastructure or money to fund the needed infrastructure, etc. Had Ukraine tried to gain control of them, Russia would have quickly put an end to it. So this ridiculous notion that Ukraine "gave up nukes for security obligations" is a total misread of history.
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I keep getting told that Russia does not equal Soviet, so why would Soviet nukes end up, by default, with Russia?
 
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LouderVol said:
I keep getting told that Russia does not equal Soviet, so why would Soviet nukes end up, by default, with Russia?
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You’re not really expecting and acknowledgment of that slip up are you? I mean in back to back sentences Larry talks about nukes not existing and then what was going to be done about them.
 
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OHvol40 said:
They were not benevolent, infallible, or travelers from the future. They were men who’s reality included outhouses and sending messages via horseback. Our ancestors also cannibalized each other, do you subscribe to those principles too?

Hiding behind the irrelevant words of others because you can’t find your own is, as I said, weak. A lot has happened since the mid 18th century.
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Crossing the Atlantic went from an impossibility to a regular thing, even if it took months.

Warfare went from men stabbing each other with swords, to muskets.

It's not like there was no innovation, or that none of them were inventive themselves. They would have known change is coming even if they couldnt predict the outcome.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Did they prophesy everything that has happened technologically and geopolitically the last 250 years? Can you prophesy what happens in the next 250? Should future generations hang on our current leader’s words in a quarter millennia? Doubtful.
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They knew that entangling alliances would be a determinant to us. They were right about that.

They knew political parties would be a determinant to us even though they didnt exist. They were right about that.
 
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