War in Ukraine

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#23,951
volgr said:
Russia was always going to win this conflict if NATO didnt join. I'm a realist who wants to see Ukrainian and Russian lives spared. You guys can wax poetic about sovereign borders, but what is done is done. How do we end this as quickly as possible and prevent unnecessary casualties?
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By Russia leaving Ukraine, it’s pretty simple. It only becomes hard for you when there isn’t a solution that involves blaming the US, Russia winning, and Ukraine surrendering.
 
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#23,953
volgr said:
Russia was always going to win this conflict if NATO didnt join. I'm a realist who wants to see Ukrainian and Russian lives spared. You guys can wax poetic about sovereign borders, but what is done is done. How do we end this as quickly as possible and prevent unnecessary casualties?
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hog88 said:
The only realistic solution is for the Ukrainians to keep sending dead Russians back to their mothers and for the mothers of Russia to get tired of it.
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Not a realistic solution because Russia is sending back far more dead Ukrainian soldiers and Ukraine was already at a numbers disadvantage to start. So, again, without NATO involvement in the form of troops, Russia will win. Sounds like you are also cheering on the more death scenario.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I believe part of the 4th political theory by Dugin is Russia relying less on the west. These people predicting the Russian economy to collapse might as well just go ahead and predict the Orioles to win the World Series while they are at it.
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Yes, a relatively average economy for its size with very little innovation compared to the US is a recipe for economic success. You sound more like the other two Red Guards by the day.
 
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hog88 said:
We're on the verge of a worldwide economic collapse and Russia's will collapse right along with everyone else's.
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There could possibly be a scenario where the economies of the U.S. and traditional Eurpoean powers collapse and other parts of the world continue to thrive.

I don't want to see any economic collapse at all. But these people cheering for Russia to collapse don't understand that much of what they are doing has perhaps been planned.

Like I said. They might as well predict the Orioles to win the World Series this year or Vandy to win the SEC Championship in football this upcoming session.
 
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volgr said:
This is the problem. Your side offers unrealistic solutions. Russia isnt going to leave until they get an agreeable ceasefire or they achieve their goals militarily. So, now what?
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My side? You mean decent humanity? This is all on Russia and their decision to invade a sovereign country and to kill innocents.
 
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DonjoVol said:
There could possibly be a scenario where the economies of the U.S. and traditional Eurpoean powers collapse and other parts of the world continue to thrive.

I don't want to see any economic collapse at all. But these people cheering for Russia to collapse don't understand that much of what they are doing has perhaps been planned.

Like I said. They might as well predict the Orioles to win the World Series this year or Vandy to win the SEC Championship in football this upcoming session.
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You misspelled cheering for Russia to leave Ukraine and yes the US economy dwarfs Russia in every conceivable category including oil production but yeah they are on the verge of global domination
 
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volgr said:
This is the problem. Your side offers unrealistic solutions. Russia isnt going to leave until they get an agreeable ceasefire or they achieve their goals militarily. So, now what?
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Plenty of video showing they cleared out like a bunch of little girls leaving their ruck sacks, weapons and body armor as they got their asses routed out of the Kiev area. 🤡
 
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MontyPython said:
I'm at least 7% certain 'we' can't buy a Stinger.
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landscapingvol said:
You misspelled cheering for Russia to leave Ukraine and yes the US economy dwarfs Russia in every conceivable category including oil production but yeah they are on the verge of global domination
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Did I say they were on the verge of global domination?

Please I'm going to say this for the last time. Learn how to read.
 
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KB5252 said:
I support the sanctions, I have no faith the administration doing what is necessary to limit the effects on its citizens. No straddling fences just don't have any faith in Biden, Harris or Pelosi. Anyone who tells you they do is either a blind partisan or a fool.
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At this point, you cannot seriously think that this was a good idea. What ended up doing is isolating ourselves and Western Europe and pushing Russia towards China and India... and eventually a sizable chunk of the Middle East, Central Asia, SE Asia, Africa and parts of Latin America.
 
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