War in Ukraine

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So just a question. Do most of you support all of the sanctions that have been put on Russia? Especially since those sanctions are harming not only innocent Russian citizens but other countries around the globe as well as the US?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So just a question. Do most of you support all of the sanctions that have been put on Russia? Especially since those sanctions are harming not only innocent Russian citizens but other countries around the globe as well as the US?
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I think it's unfortunate and stupid that Europe was so short of foresight they allowed themselves to become dependent on Russia.

I don't mind sanctions on Russia, I think the sanctions will hurt Russia long term, they've done as good a job as one possibly could in shoring up their economy but it won't be sustainable long term.
 
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KB5252 said:
I think it's unfortunate and stupid that Europe was so short of foresight they shared themselves to become dependent on Russia.

I don't mind sanctions on Russia, I think the sanctions will hurt Russia long term, they've done as good a job as one possibly could in shoring up their economy but it won't be sustainable long term.
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It’s becoming more apparent these sanctions aren’t really doing that much. Other than increasing prices for the rest of us. These sanctions need to be lifted. They are causing harm to way too many other countries including ours. Biden has already said his sanctions will cause food shortages.
 
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volgr said:
He made a public speech in a stadium to hundreds of thousands of Russians. Unlike little Z with the green screen.
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Why do you keep talking up a sociopath?

The fact that the POTUS is incompetent doesn't chance the fact that Putin is an autocrat. I'm not a fan of Zelensky but what's happening to the Ukrainians is senseless.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It’s becoming more apparent these sanctions aren’t really doing that much. Other than increasing prices for the rest of us. These sanctions need to be lifted. They are causing harm to way too many other countries including ours. Biden has already said his sanctions will cause food shortages.
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Food shortages were already on the horizon due to the war. Putin controls the "when the end" of this war comes. Just as Putin must regroup so he can sell coming up short in cutting the head off the snake the west will stay the course and let the sanctions eat at Russia. If they do they can put a significant dent in Russia's economy.

The question is how long will we feel the ripple? I think with competent leadership we would be fine after 4 to 9 months but I don't have faith in this administration. That doesn't change my attitude toward what Putin has done though.
 
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KB5252 said:
Food shortages were already on the horizon due to the war. Putin controls the "when the end" of this war comes. Just as Putin must regroup so he can sell coming up short in cutting the head off the snake the west will stay the course and let the sanctions eat at Russia. If they do they can put a significant dent in Russia's economy.

The question is how long will we feel the ripple? I think with competent leadership we would be fine after 4 to 9 months but I don't have faith in this administration. That doesn't change my attitude toward what Putin has done though.
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Nice straddling of the fence. You support the sanctions .... but not this administration doing them.
 
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KB5252 said:
Food shortages were already on the horizon due to the war. Putin controls the "when the end" of this war comes. Just as Putin must regroup so he can sell coming up short in cutting the head off the snake the west will stay the course and let the sanctions eat at Russia. If they do they can put a significant dent in Russia's economy.

The question is how long will we feel the ripple? I think with competent leadership we would be fine after 4 to 9 months but I don't have faith in this administration. That doesn't change my attitude toward what Putin has done though.
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See your last paragraph is my point and I agree. Yes what Putin is doing is bad. But the sanctions are not being the deterrent Biden said they would be. Putin has taken steps to get around the sanctions and the US and other countries are looking like the dumb ones. Because we have Biden, I think things are going to get much worse. On top of that, knowing we are facing more shortages, he continues to send money to Ukraine. This is ridiculous.

I get that everyone just wants to blame Putin for everything. But that’s just a lazy way to think. Stop sending money to Ukraine and drop the sanctions. But it won’t happen because Biden is too dumb.
 
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So Azov has/had what, 1500 members at most? How long can Russia pretend the invasion is about removing them? It's akin to the US army shelling all of virginia because some neo nazis gathered in Charlottesville in 2017. Anyone here buy this besides Ras and Volgr? Lol
 
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MercyPercy said:
So Azov has/had what, 1500 members at most? How long can Russia pretend the invasion is about removing them? It's akin to the US army shelling all of virginia because some neo nazis gathered in Charlottesville in 2017. Anyone here buy this besides Ras and Volgr? Lol
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He spoke at a stadium full of millions of people and has pinky promised that his soldiers haven’t killed a single civilian. The Russians are there killing Nazis for the good of the World
 
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MercyPercy said:
So Azov has/had what, 1500 members at most? How long can Russia pretend the invasion is about removing them? It's akin to the US army shelling all of virginia because some neo nazis gathered in Charlottesville in 2017. Anyone here buy this besides Ras and Volgr? Lol
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I thought the ruskies had reported they'd killed all the nazis?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nice straddling of the fence. You support the sanctions .... but not this administration doing them.
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I support the sanctions, I have no faith the administration doing what is necessary to limit the effects on its citizens. No straddling fences just don't have any faith in Biden, Harris or Pelosi. Anyone who tells you they do is either a blind partisan or a fool.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So just a question. Do most of you support all of the sanctions that have been put on Russia? Especially since those sanctions are harming not only innocent Russian citizens but other countries around the globe as well as the US?
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Why would anyone support sanctions against Russia? Ukrainian Nazis deserve it for wanting to choose their own alliances.

Plus, when has a war in Europe ever caused us any problems here in the US?

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CNBC:

Russia’s economy is beginning to crack as economists forecast sharp contractions

PUBLISHED MON, APR 4 20227:42 AM EDTUPDATED MON, APR 4 20229:02 AM EDT

The Russian economy is set to shrink sharply this year while inflation skyrockets, as punitive international sanctions in response to its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine begin to bite.

Russian manufacturing activity in March contracted at its sharpest rate since May 2020, in the early stages of the Covid-19 pandemic, as material shortages and delivery delays weighed heavily on factories.

The S&P Global purchasing managers’ index (PMI) for Russia, published on Friday, dropped from 48.6 in February to 44.1 in March, with anything below 50 representing contraction. Goldman Sachs economists noted on Friday that the fall was “broad-based, with sharp drops in the output, new orders, and (especially) the new exports orders components.”

In a note Wednesday, economists at Capital Economics projected that Western sanctions are likely to push Russian gross domestic product into a 12% contraction in 2022, while inflation is expected to exceed 23% year-on-year.
 
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