War in Ukraine

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volgr said:
Ironically, all last week many on this board were justifying Ukrainian war crimes. Now, they want to lecture the board about possible Russian war crimes. Of course none of them have the moral character to be ashamed of such behaviour.
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Justifying the war crimes Putin made up to justify his annexation attempt?
 
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volgr said:
For giving the other side's story, which at this point, in my opinion, is more believable? In leftist world, once they make an accusation, the other side isnt allowed to respond.
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The same people that fed us COVID lies, Hunter's laptop was Russian disinfo, Russian collusion, and that stole the 2020 election are now trustworthy broadcasters of truth.
 
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volgr said:
Looks like Hungary wisely voted against the western death cult...and against Ukrainian support.
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So, lets look at the body count so far:
1. Tried to steal elections and overthrow Lushenko in Belarus: Fail
2. Tried a coup in Kazhakhstan: Fail
3. Tried to turn the election in Hungary: Fail
4. Tried to bring Ukraine into the demonic/debt ridden/woke West: Soon to be fail
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The same people that fed us COVID lies, Hunter's laptop was Russian disinfo, Russian collusion, and that stole the 2020 election are now trustworthy broadcasters of truth.
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I doubt even the Trump supporters here will hitch their wagon to your Russian cause just because you invoke the 2020 election fraud theory. You overestimate their willingness to turn on the US of A at best for that.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I doubt even the Trump supporters here will hitch their wagon to your Russian cause just because you invoke the 2020 election fraud theory. You overestimate their willingness to turn on the US of A at best for that.
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Depends on whether they think they are turning on Trump or not.
 
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Septic said:
As a trump fan, you may want to sit out this round of stone chucking.

Or at least wait until the heat wears off of him asking Putin to dig up dirt on a sitting US president instead of imploring him to stop the war.
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Digging up dirt? More like digging up the **** that is this administration.
I will chuck rocks all day so you best move along if it bothers you
 
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volgr said:
The guy was simply tweeting out the points of the Russian MoD. Which makes their attempted demonization of the messenger laughable. They are so pathetically transparent.
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Pathetically transparent? Like believing an occupying force did absolutely zero to hamper the movements of the native population while they were on site? Even without judging them on an absolute scale the statements they made are clearly PR and not based on any type of acceptable military operation.

They occupied this area for weeks. And apparently had no interactions with the public, didnt check any person or home for weapons, didnt monitor or track any movement, didnt take anything of import, found staging grounds, temporary housing, storage yards, vehicle bays, etc without displacing any locals that were still there?

To even pass that on means you put some faith in what are clearly bold faced lies. If you want to appear neutral at least throw ins "take it for what its worth", instead of jumping to its defense as soon as the absurdity gets pointed out.
 
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615vols said:
Well if Russia says they didn’t do it, must have been those dang nazis!
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They already killed the Nazis in an earlier battle and were claiming victory so there must be millions of Nazis in Ukraine killing their own people. Thousands of Ukrainians have returned to their home country to fight for a government that slaughters its own people. Meanwhile a nation that has a long, glorious history of killing its own people and millions in Ukraine is invading said country and is doing the Lord’s work there. It is so clear to me now!!
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
By rest of the world, do you mean Western Europe and the Anglosphere?
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You mean the part of the World that is Democratic and composes the vast majority of the World’s largest economies? How could I leave off such a glorious nation as China who hasn’t met a civil right that it hasn’t ran over with a steam roller, set on fire, then urinated on. India needs cheap sources of natural resources for its massive population which has been pointed out to you dozens of times now. I guess if you want to look completely more foolish than you already have repeatedly up till this point and celebrate the inclusion of Brazil and a bunch of 2nd an 3rd world nations go ahead. You don’t seem very concerned with not sounding completely foolish.
 
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LouderVol said:
Pathetically transparent? Like believing an occupying force did absolutely zero to hamper the movements of the native population while they were on site? Even without judging them on an absolute scale the statements they made are clearly PR and not based on any type of acceptable military operation.

They occupied this area for weeks. And apparently had no interactions with the public, didnt check any person or home for weapons, didnt monitor or track any movement, didnt take anything of import, found staging grounds, temporary housing, storage yards, vehicle bays, etc without displacing any locals that were still there?

To even pass that on means you put some faith in what are clearly bold faced lies. If you want to appear neutral at least throw ins "take it for what its worth", instead of jumping to its defense as soon as the absurdity gets pointed out.
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I havent commented on whether I believe them. I just provided their explanation. I will say, their explanation is more consistent with Russian actions thus far and the atrocities are more characteristic of what we have seen from some Ukrainian forces. Doesnt mean a rogue Russian unit didnt do this, but it is highly questionable.
 
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volgr said:
I havent commented on whether I believe them. I just provided their explanation. I will say, their explanation is more consistent with Russian actions thus far and the atrocities are more characteristic of what we have seen from some Ukrainian forces. Doesnt mean a rogue Russian unit didnt do this, but it is highly questionable.
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It's not inline with invading a foreign country and occupying it against locals that are fighting back?
 
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volgr said:
I havent commented on whether I believe them. I just provided their explanation. I will say, their explanation is more consistent with Russian actions thus far and the atrocities are more characteristic of what we have seen from some Ukrainian forces. Doesnt mean a rogue Russian unit didnt do this, but it is highly questionable.
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You misspelled they are consistent with what I believe have been the Russian actions thus far and what I believe the Ukraine government is doing to its people. Everything associated with Russia in a negative way is dismissed by you as propaganda, it’s comical.
 
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