War in Ukraine

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KB5252 said:
I've asked for his sources so I could review what he's seeing. I have an open mind and my opinions are always changing. He responded with a half assed, canned answer about how I wouldn't like his sources. It's a damn clown show, I'm still open but I know better than to keep asking. I've asked on at least three occasions trying to give the benefit of the doubt. I wouldn't waste my time in I were you, an excercize in futility.
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What are the sources in response to?

There is an independent journalist named Patrick Lancaster on YouTube. He was last reporting in Mariupol but he is on the ground. I think his subscriber count has more than doubled the past few weeks as well. I haven't been to his page in a few days but do appreciate the more independent reporting. He's not hard to find.
 
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luthervol said:
They deserve it more than Israel or Afghanistan, who we give billions to every year....at least this year.
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None of those countries deserve any of our money. What’s the reason you believe Ukraine deserves a penny? Just because of the war? That’s not a reason to give them money.
 
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volgr said:
You have not debated with me. You make ridiculous assertions, I factually rebut them and you respond by talking about the ethnicities of Russians which has nothing to do with your original assertions or my response.
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Let me walk you through it, genocide refers to the mass killing of a particular race, ethnic group, or religion. Therefore it would stand to reason would it not that the same ethnic group would not be committing genocide against itself. You could argue they are killing or imprisoning people they disagree with politically but that isn’t genocide. You haven’t “factually” rebutted anything other than in your mind
 
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MontyPython said:
Wow. You are literally quoting Tass - the official news agency of Russia and mouthpiece of the Kremlin and Putin.

Comrade, suggested new avatar...

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Typical. Like I said take a nap. Zelensky is scum. Not Putin level but he isn’t much better. I mean silencing all opposing parties. Harboring human traffickers. Bio weapon labs. Yeah keep on pumping that Ukrainian shine.
 
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volgr said:
Sorry to interrupt some of you guys Russia squirt session...
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So MSN and Niall Bradley - who uses Russian sources- are what you term 'curated source'. He'll use Western sources when agreeing, but damns Western propaganda when it doesn't, just as you blanket vilify it so you can cherry pick.

For instance, he carelessly throws around '1 million Iraqi dead' just as 'you guys' do. That is the upper end of lunatic estimates but it's sure good propaganda. Tweets a video of a lone guy hitting three alleged Roma women with something that looks like a sausage and extrapolates that to "This is how Romas are treated in Zelensky's Ukraine". He advances the Ukraine=Nazi agitprop.

No wonder you don't like to show your carefully curated sources. Propaganda is a fact of everyday life and war. When you stop questioning and indulge your bias - or purposely advance agenda - you're the propaganda.

MOSCOW'S NAZI PROBLEM
In fact, there's been a steady and seemingly growing affection for Putin's Russia by white supremacy, Aryan types for some time. I noted in another post how Stormfront is behind Putin and it'd be near unanimous were "white people on both sides" not involved. Whether D. Duke or R. Spencer, J. Taylor of American Renaissance or M. Heimbach of Uniite the Right and Traditionalist Workers Party, white nationalists globally love them some Putin. RIM - the Russian Imperialist Movement - was founded in 2008 as an ultranationalist paramilitary org the U.S. and Canada consider white supremacist terrorist orgs because some of their associates actually blow shite up and kill people. Though some of its publications are banned in Russia, it operates two compounds and is based in St. Petersburg, has been fighting in Donbas since 2014, and provides military training and has outreach to ultranationalist groups - including Atomwaffen and it's Russian chapter - internationally. White ideology groups. And they do Reichy, Hitlerian symbolism.
Confronting Russia’s Role in Transnational White Supremacist Extremism
Russian Imperial Movement - Wikipedia
Intervju med en russisk nasjonalist

In fact and practicality, every claim you Putin "squirters" have made about Azov specifically, and Ukraine government generally, can be made about RIM, similar Russian groups, and the Russian government itself.

But then, a well-researched guy like yourself and @Rasputin_Vol and @DonjoVol @red butler @BigOrangeTrain knows these things, right? You must because it's only saps like us Western news consumers that only see one side.

Go 'curate' your mirror.
 
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hog88 said:
Not really since use of nuclear weapons means their destruction also.
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That has been the thought for decades, that these weapons are of no concern because no sane person would dare use them.

I think that is being re-examined now. In a country run by an authoritarian dictator with no checks and balances, then what happens when said authoritarian dictator goes insane.

I no longer believe they fit in the category they have been sitting for the past few decades.
 
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