‘23 CA QB Nicholaus Iamaleava (Tennessee)

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allvolrecruiting said:
I guess Saban is the worst coach for WRs ever. All his big time WR prospects have success. Saban is a bad coach for WRs!
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I guess the point would be that Saban gets 5 star WR's and they come out 5 stars. If someone can take 2 and 3 star QB's and consistently get them to the league (whether they make it long term in the NFL or not), then they are a phenomenal coach for that position.
 
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SSVol said:
The list of 5* QB busts is long. I'm shocked at the numbers being thrown around before a guy takes his first college snap. Now if the deals are are backloaded in such a way that performance will ultimately affect the outcome, then maybe.
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It is a fair concern. What would Jarrett Guarantano command as a high school senior in the NIL market? 😳😣🥴
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
If you look back in recent history: Manziel, Tebow, Lawrence, Burrow, Winston, Baker, Cam all would’ve been a steal for their programs at 8-12 million over 3-4 years.
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Hindsight is always 20/20. But think about it realistically. Let’s say we get one of the 5* QBs and we have him for the whole 4 years. In that time frame, do you honestly think, given where we currently are, that we could assemble a roster that could win a NC?

It’s theoretically possible but highly unlikely. So now let’s look at the Heisman. I just don’t see it. Will we have the skill players to allow for a QB to win the Heisman? Manziel, Burrow, Tebow and Cam all were on loaded rosters. Baker did it in the weak B12. I guess my point is you are arguing for a HUGE IF. What happens if we don’t even win the SECE with a 5* QB? Still think that 8-12 million would be a steal?

Way too many uncertainties to gamble that much money on one player hoping they are the next Joe Burrow.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Hindsight is always 20/20. But think about it realistically. Let’s say we get one of the 5* QBs and we have him for the whole 4 years. In that time frame, do you honestly think, given where we currently are, that we could assemble a roster that could win a NC?

It’s theoretically possible but highly unlikely. So now let’s look at the Heisman. I just don’t see it. Will we have the skill players to allow for a QB to win the Heisman? Manziel, Burrow, Tebow and Cam all were on loaded rosters. Baker did it in the weak B12. I guess my point is you are arguing for a HUGE IF. What happens if we don’t even win the SECE with a 5* QB? Still think that 8-12 million would be a steal?

Way too many uncertainties to gamble that much money on one player hoping they are the next Joe Burrow.
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I absolutely still think it is a steal. I have seen first hand the ripple effect economically that a star player can have for a university and a city. Even if he’s just our Tahj Boyd that gets us back into that upper echelon conversation. At some point you have to get a guy like this to make that leap and that’s the market value for them right now.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
I absolutely still think 8-12 is a steal. I have seen first hand the ripple effect economically that a star player can have for a university and a city. Even if he’s just our Tahj Boyd that gets us back into that upper echelon conversation. At some point you have to get a guy like this to make that leap and that’s the market value for them right now.
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It's a steal if he pans out and is a 1st round pick. If he's the next JG, Quinten Dormady, or Harrison Bailey, then it's a foolish investment. Quite a gamble to take given our recent history at the position.
 
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cncchris33 said:
It's a steal if he pans out and is a 1st round pick. If he's the next JG, Quinten Dormady, or Harrison Bailey, then it's a foolish investment. Quite a gamble to take given our recent history at the position.
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Then you want us to do nothing and continue to be middle of the pack? Cause every kid costs something now with NIL. If you’re not willing to pay for a QB you’re not going to get anyone

Also our recent history wasn’t with Heupel identifying QB prospects.

this is the game now guys. If you want to be with the big boys, you have to take big swings and if you miss then new people come in and make the decisions next time. Just like with NFL GMs.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
Then you want us to do nothing and continue to be middle of the pack? Cause every kid costs something now with NIL. If you’re not willing to pay for a QB you’re not going to get anyone

Also our recent history wasn’t with Heupel identifying QB prospects.

this is the game now guys. If you want to be with the big boys, you have to take big swings and if you miss then new people come in and make the decisions next time. Just like with NFL GMs.
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Remind me again where I suggest that we do nothing. There's an entire continent between doing nothing and paying the highest NIL amount to date by a country mile.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Remind me again where I suggest that we do nothing. There's an entire continent between doing nothing and paying the highest NIL amount to date by a country mile.
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Let’s do it this way, per year what’s the most you think a kid should get for an NIL deal and I’ll tell you about where the kid would have been ranked last class.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
Let’s do it this way, per year what’s the most you think a kid should get for an NIL deal and I’ll tell you about where the kid would have been ranked last class.
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I'm comfortable paying a top-flight QB a 7-figure NIL deal, and so if your $8 million is over 4 years ($2 million/year), then I could be convinced to get on board with that idea provided it is contracted and paid out year to year. I'm not comfortable paying $8 million up front to a high school senior, which is what I understood your proposal to be.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
Let me be clear, I’m not saying every kid should have millions thrown at them, but QB? Absolutely. Program changing potential QBs are worth the risk.
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A 5* recruit has about a 50% chance of being drafted and about a 75% chance to be retained. If they are drafted in the 4th-7th round, they are making significantly less money as actual NFL draftees than you are suggesting will be offered to them out of *high school*. I absolutely don't care either way, but if ROI if ever considered, I can't see how they can justify paying more than the NFL does to get (on average) much less for what they spend. I completely agree that the top few that work out are worth every penny and more, but busts are more likely than successes. It's just a question of how many 7 figure busts before deep pockets get shallow.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I'm comfortable paying a top-flight QB a 7-figure NIL deal, and so if your $8 million is over 4 years ($2 million/year), then I could be convinced to get on board with that idea provided it is contracted and paid out year to year. I'm not comfortable paying $8 million up front to a high school senior, which is what I understood your proposal to be.
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Oh yeah
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
Then you want us to do nothing and continue to be middle of the pack? Cause every kid costs something now with NIL. If you’re not willing to pay for a QB you’re not going to get anyone

Also our recent history wasn’t with Heupel identifying QB prospects.

this is the game now guys. If you want to be with the big boys, you have to take big swings and if you miss then new people come in and make the decisions next time. Just like with NFL GMs.
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Name the other top flight QBs that are getting 8-12 million dollar NIL deals.
 
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