War in Ukraine

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OHvol40 said:
This dichotomous bull**** spills into every conversation. Can’t we just talk about the subject matter instead of getting childish digs in at every turn? Honestly, it’s like trying to discuss cars with people who only scream “Fords are junk!” and “Chevys are piles of crap!”
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Seriously? You guys have jumped in with Trump this and Trump that once Russia invaded. This thread pretty much stayed on topic until then.
 
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hog88 said:
Seriously? You guys have jumped in with Trump this and Trump that once Russia invaded. This thread pretty much stayed on topic until then.
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That’s exactly what I mean. There is no American political dichotomy to: Russia invading Ukraine and the subsequent ongoing discussion. I reject your broad brush strokes, I haven’t initiated any Biden or Trump talk here… because it’s dumb.
 
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AshG said:
Super complicated and messy situation, that.

The Russian Court for a few centuries were actually ethnic Germans, unlike the people they ruled. Their constant marrying out back to the fatherland kept them involved in conflicts they really had no place in.

Actual Russians haven't been running Russia all that long on the grand scheme of things, just a little over 100 years in this most current stretch.
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I knew all of that. Same with a lot of monarchies. Heck, Elizabeth Taylor was Greek, and she ruled Egypt.
 
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825VOL said:
If this is anywhere close to being true, it is a huge number of Russian lives lost and millions of $$ wasted on a war with a country that was never going to harm Russia.
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That’s a little over 3 Tank Battalions-worth of tanks destroyed.

Granted I’m sure most are old T-72Bs with old upgrades, but each one still has a 125mm main gun.

Although, there have been T-80BVMs that were destroyed. Those upgraded T-80s are less than a decade old.
 
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OHvol40 said:
It’s striking that Putin’s personal finances are multilaterally now subject to sanction. That essentially means that the international community at large has officially ostracized him, akin to KJU. I don’t see any way that Putin can recover any diplomacy. He is permanently stained with irrationality IMO.
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When you can just invade any country you want with no real repercussions WGAF?
 
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Paper_Towel said:
That’s a little over 3 Tank Battalions-worth of tanks destroyed.

Granted I’m sure most are old T-72Bs with old upgrades, but each one still has a 125mm main gun.

Although, there have been T-80BVMs that were destroyed. Those upgraded T-80s are less than a decade old.
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I just hope Ukraine gets enough weapons to continue the fight and destroy as much Russian weaponry and troops as possible. That is the only way Russia will be stopped-severe pain.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You don't know that there wasn't concrete evidence that Russia was involved. The evidence has not been made public. There was enough evidence for Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, to reach the conclusion that Russia was responsible and for Pompeo to feel comfortable enough with that assessment to make it public. It makes no sense that Donald Trump would side with an authoritarian ruler like Vladimir Putin over the assessment of his own hand-picked Secretary of State. Trump never even entertained the possibility that it was Russia. He rejected the allegation without ever even looking at the evidence... Why? That is bizarre.
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Trump was privy to information you and I will never see. Maybe he knows much more about the situation than either one of us. You continue your ridiculous conjecture and childish Trump sack swinging. I mean you have said ignorant things like , oh Trump is happy about all of this. You continue to show how pathetic liberals truly are.

The fact is the info hasn’t been made public. So, as of right now? Russia, Putin, wasn’t involved. But hey keep up your ridiculous narrative that Trump is in bed with Putin. Your daily Trump fix is ridiculous.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Trump was privy to information you and I will never see. Maybe he knows much more about the situation than either one of us. You continue your ridiculous conjecture and childish Trump sack swinging. I mean you have said ignorant things like , oh Trump is happy about all of this. You continue to show how pathetic liberals truly are.

The fact is the info hasn’t been made public. So, as of right now? Russia, Putin, wasn’t involved. But hey keep up your ridiculous narrative that Trump is in bed with Putin. Your daily Trump fix is ridiculous.
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Per Mike Pompeo's assessment, Russia and Putin were involved. It makes no sense as to why Donald Trump would publicly side with a scum-of-the-earth dictator over his top, hand-picked, diplomat. What is the point of having a Secretary of State if you are going to believe Vladimir Putin over him/her? That was bizarre.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Per Mike Pompeo's assessment, Russia and Putin were involved. It makes no sense as to why Donald Trump would publicly side with a scum-of-the-earth dictator over his top, hand-picked, diplomat. What is the point of having a Secretary of State if you are going to believe Vladimir Putin over him/her? That was bizarre.
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Good times. Takes a special imbecile to s*** the bed with both in less than a year.

 
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Paper_Towel said:
That’s a little over 3 Tank Battalions-worth of tanks destroyed.

Granted I’m sure most are old T-72Bs with old upgrades, but each one still has a 125mm main gun.

Although, there have been T-80BVMs that were destroyed. Those upgraded T-80s are less than a decade old.
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Them Javelins are taking names and kicking ass if this is true. It would be nice to see more air support for Ukraine
 
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