War in Ukraine

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luthervol said:
Again, it all depends on what led farmers to that point:

Scenario 1: They want Feb. changed from Black History Month to White Farmers Get Everything Free Month - the majority of the public would be against them, their land would eventually be taken (for a fair price of course) and handed over to people willing to farm. Emergency food stores would be opened and everything would be okay.

Scenario 2: The government is taking the first born from every farm and using them in medical experimentation: The majority of the public would side with the farmers and demand a change in policy. If change was not made, they would join with the farmers
to do what was necessary.

Obviously, it all depends on the public's view on the "correctness" of the farmers' position.
Same with the truckers, same with BLM.
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Here it is.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There was never any concrete evidence that Putin was involved. Yet again you show you cannot go a single day without swinging off of Trumps sack. You are pathetic.
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You don't know that there wasn't concrete evidence that Russia was involved. The evidence has not been made public. There was enough evidence for Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, to reach the conclusion that Russia was responsible and for Pompeo to feel comfortable enough with that assessment to make it public. It makes no sense that Donald Trump would side with an authoritarian ruler like Vladimir Putin over the assessment of his own hand-picked Secretary of State. Trump never even entertained the possibility that it was Russia. He rejected the allegation without ever even looking at the evidence... Why? That is bizarre.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You don't know that there wasn't concrete evidence that Russia was involved. The evidence has not been made public. There was enough evidence for Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, to reach the conclusion that Russia was responsible and for him to feel comfortable enough with that assessment to make it public. It makes no sense that Donald Trump would side with an authoritarian ruler like Vladimir Putin over the assessment of his own hand-picked Secretary of State. Trump never even entertained the possibility that it was Russia. He rejected the allegation without ever even looking at the evidence... Why? That is bizarre.
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The IC lied to Trump and about Trump for 4 years. Why should he have trusted anything they said?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Yes you did. You're a pathetic human and a liar.
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A pathetic human and a liar???? Why are you so angry.

But no I didn't.
I'll not stoop to calling you a pathetic human and a liar, just sadly mistaken - which I'm guessing isn't all that uncommon.
 
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AshG said:
It's not a dumb game. I'm waiting for you to specifically innumerate how you've been wronged. Specifically you, and specifically how. Two things you have yet to do.
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I am a conservative...figure it out. Just because they haven't fully succeeded in installing their oft stated agenda doesn't mean they aren't trying to. You know exactly what my issues with that crowd is. So why don't you just leave me alone?

Have a nice life 🙋‍♂️ I am pissed off enough at the state of my country now, and I am not doing this smarmy back and forth patty cake 🦬💩.
 
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luthervol said:
A pathetic human and a liar???? Why are you so angry.

But no I didn't.
I'll not stoop to calling you a pathetic human and a liar, just sadly mistaken - which I'm guessing isn't all that uncommon.
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If the shoe fits wear it comrade. Which flag do you prefer, the hammer and. And sickle or the golden star.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Here it is.
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I read the entire chain of repartee.

Do you realize that it was a convoluted conclusion born from an extended thought experiment with very clearly delineated boundaries? And that such an answer can only be seen critically within the bounds of said thought experiment?
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I am a conservative...figure it out. Just because they haven't fully succeeded in installing their oft stated agenda doesn't mean they aren't trying to. You know exactly what my issues with that crowd is. So why don't you just leave me alone?

Have a nice life 🙋‍♂️ I am pissed off enough at the state of my country now, and I am not doing this smarmy back and forth patty cake 🦬💩.
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So you can't provide an answer. Got it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You don't know that there wasn't concrete evidence that Russia was involved. The evidence has not been made public. There was enough evidence for Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, to reach the conclusion that Russia was responsible and for him to feel comfortable enough with that assessment to make it public. It makes no sense that Donald Trump would side with an authoritarian ruler like Vladimir Putin over the assessment of his own hand-picked Secretary of State. Trump never even entertained the possibility that it was Russia. He rejected the allegation without ever even looking at the evidence... Why? That is bizarre.
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LOL. Liberalism and TDS truly are mental disorders. It's always Trump yet it was ok when Barry laughed them off while ridiculing other people and time magazine made out like dementia Joe was some sort of Russian hard ass in his aviators all while getting paid by the people he allowed Russia to invade. "We'll shut our energy independence down and only buy half a million barrels of oil from you a day if you invade my piggy bank". What's even funnier is dims working with Russians trying to frame Trump for allegedly working with Russians. 🤣
 
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AshG said:
I read the entire chain of repartee.

Do you realize that it was a convoluted conclusion born from an extended thought experiment with very clearly delineated boundaries? And that such an answer can only be seen critically within the bounds of said thought experiment?
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Ashe, I'm glad you're feeling better. You can rationalize that manifesto all you want. You're free to try and make what he said ok. Like I said it's an f'd up way to think. I'm not playing this game with you. Good night.
 
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825VOL said:
If after over 4 years of all the IC lying about your involvement with Russia, no one with any sense would take their word for anything.
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That doesn't wash, because Pompeo was Trump's hand-picked Secretary of State. Trump didn't have to take the word of some unknown beaurocrat in the IC. He only had to take the word of Mike Pompeo over the word of a scumbag like Vladimir Putin.

Think about what you're saying for a minute.

It's basically :

"We can't trust our Intelligence Community, so let's trust Vladimir Putin."

That is crazy.
 
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It's circumstantial rn, but I believe Russia used at least one very large explosive, and I believe they are in a dogfight. The hacker society really hurt them. took down their state news and infiltrated russian military. Russian are being cooked in a hail of molotovs.
 
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