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I have a niece who's getting $5K/week to work in San Diego, CA. She works three 12 hour shifts/week. Quarter of a million a year

I'm a free market Republican. I agree that the gov't should not get into the business of capping wages
The problem from a healthcare professional perspective is the discrepancy between staff pay and traveler pay. This has shown us what the market will hold in terms of wages. They could double staff nursing pay and still be paying 1/2 what they pay travelers. That is thrown in the face of people who have worked at some of these facilities for years, decades in many cases.
 
So what's your view? Do you think gov't should cap nurses' pay?
Not at all, I think instead of trying to lobby the legislature to enact laws that cap pay it’s the responsibility of the private organizations to stop pinching pennies and recognize the value of their clinical staff. I’ve never known any patient that has come to the hospital to get help from an MBA.
 
Not at all, I think instead of trying to lobby the legislature to enact laws that cap pay it’s the responsibility of the private organizations to stop pinching pennies and recognize the value of their clinical staff. I’ve never known any patient that has come to the hospital to get help from an MBA.

I agree. I also don't think the gov't should get involved in setting a minimal salary either as in a minimum wage or a living wage. Let the free market work in both directions
 
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The problem from a healthcare professional perspective is the discrepancy between staff pay and traveler pay. This has shown us what the market will hold in terms of wages. They could double staff nursing pay and still be paying 1/2 what they pay travelers. That is thrown in the face of people who have worked at some of these facilities for years, decades in many cases.
Yup. In the lab I work at we have a travler. His take home is almost double what our regualrs are taking home, some who have been there for a bit. And thats his cut what they pay out to the agency is ridiculous. Plus they get a housing allowance so no bills on that front either.
 
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Want more pay, become a traveler. That's the market. They don't have a stable, more guaranteed place to work like the non-travelers and are compensated for their desire to regularly uproot their lives.
 
Want more pay, become a traveler. That's the market. They don't have a stable, more guaranteed place to work like the non-travelers and are compensated for their desire to regularly uproot their lives.

Actually it's a great deal if you're single and unattached. There's little downside
 
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The problem from a healthcare professional perspective is the discrepancy between staff pay and traveler pay. This has shown us what the market will hold in terms of wages. They could double staff nursing pay and still be paying 1/2 what they pay travelers. That is thrown in the face of people who have worked at some of these facilities for years, decades in many cases.
I agree with your "sentiment". But on the other hand, I went from a "staff" engineer to a contractor and I'm doing just fine.
 
May want to check again who runs the legislature in PA.

who runs it in Minnesota and Connecticut?

it's odd you single out Republicans as the problem without acknowledging the blue states that already control nurse pay. so far as I can tell there is one Republican making this proposal - yet your post I responded to claimed it was Republicans in several states pushing this (though your link only mentioned one)

why try to make it about partisan politics; particularly when the facts don't fit?
 
And the Kids in Knoxville are still forced to mask because of a corrupt federal judge. I am seeing more and more people beginning to flaunt it, thank goodness.

I have kids in 2 KCS schools. The one is strict. The other isn’t, but I mostly believe that is because the principal is just weak and incompetent. I have literally spent time in that school and did not wear a mask and the principal never said anything to me about it. The only time I have appreciated her incompetence.
 
I don't understand firing a healthcare worker for not getting this shot after working in it for two years as a "hero."
But I really don't understand then filling that position with a travel nurse paying them 2 to 3 times what they were the nurse that they fired.
 
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I don’t have to “defend” what is common sense. If you go to a hospital and are under their doctors care you will do what they say or you can go somewhere else. You complain about laws and policies and hospital guidelines but they are there for several reasons. Just because some uneducated hick wants to do something different doesn’t make it right. You can’t self medicate in hospitals as a patient. Period.
You talk all of that jazz, but what is actually happening on the ground is far different.

Attorneys Report Spike In Calls For Help From Families Of Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19 | ZeroHedge

“In many cases, the hospitals have refused to release the patient, citing their unstable condition, meaning that at some point it can become impossible to get off the COVID express,” Childers wrote in his blog.

“The most common complaints we get include that patients are being pressured to accept Remdesivir, have been given Remdesivir even though they objected to it, or the hospital will not administer alternative widely-used treatments even though the patient is in critical condition where side effects are less risky than imminent death.
 
who runs it in Minnesota and Connecticut?

it's odd you single out Republicans as the problem without acknowledging the blue states that already control nurse pay. so far as I can tell there is one Republican making this proposal - yet your post I responded to claimed it was Republicans in several states pushing this (though your link only mentioned one)

why try to make it about partisan politics; particularly when the facts don't fit?
I don’t know how it got I enacted in other states, or even the details, but I know who is trying to push it through in my state. Maybe it’s simply because they hold the majority that they’ve been lobbied by HC organizations to push this through, but they are the ones bowing to it. The rep mentioned in that article has found co-sponsors from his party and is going to bring it to a vote. They are the ones pushing it, I’m just laying responsibility where it applies. I have no doubt democrats may have had a hand in instituting it in other states, and they were wrong if so.
 
The problem from a healthcare professional perspective is the discrepancy between staff pay and traveler pay. This has shown us what the market will hold in terms of wages. They could double staff nursing pay and still be paying 1/2 what they pay travelers. That is thrown in the face of people who have worked at some of these facilities for years, decades in many cases.
The discrepancies are huge between staff pay and travelers.
 
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It’s interesting to see the shift in so many physicians to “getting back to normal.” We have vaccinations, treatments, a gazillion N95 masks, and two years of experience. It makes sense to rip off the band aid. This is opposed to the top down, fear of the unknown, Covid zero mentality that still predominates public health recommendations.
It’s time to ‘move on’ from the pandemic, says Harvard medical professor — CNBC
 
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Yup. In the lab I work at we have a travler. His take home is almost double what our regualrs are taking home, some who have been there for a bit. And thats his cut what they pay out to the agency is ridiculous. Plus they get a housing allowance so no bills on that front either.
They count as self employed correct? Still doing withholdings when calculating his take home?

If they arent on benefits I wouldnt be shocked if the lab wasnt, double negative apologies, paying their half of the income tax.

That plus the no benefits and it probably is a lot closer than it appears.

That would be an interesting free market choice. Keep things as they are, or offer employees compensation + the worth of their benefits otherwise, but not actually provide them.
 
They count as self employed correct? Still doing withholdings when calculating his take home?

If they arent on benefits I wouldnt be shocked if the lab wasnt, double negative apologies, paying their half of the income tax.

That plus the no benefits and it probably is a lot closer than it appears.

That would be an interesting free market choice. Keep things as they are, or offer employees compensation + the worth of their benefits otherwise, but not actually provide them.
I'm not sure what they're considered, but he has said he doesn't get benefits, so that is part of draw back no insurance. If it was up to me personally give me the higher wages I know hospital costs are ridiculous and insurance helps a ton, but I'll take my chances with the higher take home pay.
 
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I do love the explosion of top notch research from around the world on Covid related issues.
Lockdown measures linked to an increase in drinking at home - NewsBreak

Shocking!!!
“The study, published in the journal Addiction, found that while people were broadly drinking the same amount of alcohol during periods of restrictions as they were when no restrictions were in place, lockdowns appeared to be linked to a shift in habits to at-home.

This guy really hedges nicely on the future of at home drinking….there may be more, or less, or stay the same.
“Dr Iain Hardie, lead author of the study from the University of Glasgow MRC/CSO Social and Public Health Sciences Unit, said: “Going forward it remains unclear what the long-term consequences will be of the changes in alcohol consumption in 2020. With hospitality premises back operating at closer to full capacity it’s likely that alcohol consumption in these venues will move closer to pre-pandemic levels, although they could potentially decline again in response to new variants if restrictions are reintroduced or people are afraid of indoor spaces.”
 
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