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luthervol said:
Taking COVID seriously and understanding and even supporting BLM is not leftist. It's centrist.
Rightwing media attempts to paint it as leftist.
The concept that "if it's not conservative (rightwing) then it's leftwing" is simply wrong.
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There are three primary categories at work here:
  • Those who do not accept their bias or even understand that they are biased
  • Those who acknowledge their bias and roll around in it like a pig in mud
  • Those who acknowledge their bias and work to operate and understand beyond the limitations of bias
It is possible to occupy more than one category at a time, and I would say that most people at some point operate in all three.

The problem is that bias can be as comfortable as a down comforter on a cold winter morning. The feeling of being right without the willingness to accept or consider any other situation as legitimate is a shell of protection.
 
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#115,602
luthervol said:
Taking COVID seriously and understanding and even supporting BLM is not leftist. It's centrist.
Rightwing media attempts to paint it as leftist.
The concept that "if it's not conservative (rightwing) then it's leftwing" is simply wrong.
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So burning down or looting buisnesses is supported 100% by both political parties?
 
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If we had 100% vaccination in this country does anyone really believe we would be going back to pre-pandemic life? Would there still be cases and would there still be transmissions and hospitalizations with the at risk groups? The answer to that question should say a lot about the pushback on the vaccines, but I doubt it will to some.

The only thing that will get us over the finish line is making the decision to move on from this and live with it like we do every other virus.
 
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luthervol said:
Taking COVID seriously and understanding and even supporting BLM is not leftist. It's centrist.
Rightwing media attempts to paint it as leftist.
The concept that "if it's not conservative (rightwing) then it's leftwing" is simply wrong.
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Incorrect. Supporting BLM is not centrist. Given where you stand, easy to believe you think it is.

Doesn’t matter what right wing media attempts to paint it, I can see the picture myself.

Where did I say taking Covid seriously was a leftist issue? Letting it dominate your society is the leftist view.
 
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luthervol said:
That's simply an asinine statement.
The belief that BLM = burning down or looting businesses is 100% evidence of extreme rightwing bias.
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At some point, the discussion must be had concerning why there is no looting or large scale destruction of property at rightist protests but they are a fixture of leftist protests. Correlation is not causation, but it's happened too many times.
 
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allvol123 said:
Incorrect. Supporting BLM is not centrist. Given where you stand, easy to believe you think it is.

Doesn’t matter what right wing media attempts to paint it, I can see the picture myself.

Where did I say taking Covid seriously was a leftist issue? Letting it dominate your society is the leftist view.
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UNDERSTANDING and even supporting BLM is centrist.
I don't know a single person who thinks COVID should dominate our society.
I certainly do not...I have lived and carried on in a normal way.
 
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luthervol said:
That's simply an asinine statement.
The belief that BLM = burning down or looting businesses is 100% evidence of extreme rightwing bias.
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They are anti-capitalist. Want to devalue the male in the family setting. Literally use the color of a person’s skin as so important that they would use it in naming their organization.

They loot and cause damage as well, but I don’t even need to get to that stage to realize they are not centrist.
 
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AshG said:
At some point, the discussion must be had concerning why there is no looting or large scale destruction of property at rightist protests but they are a fixture of leftist protests. Correlation is not causation, but it's happened too many times.
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It all goes back to the messaging. In this day and age all that matters is getting your view out first. Doesnt matter if it's wrong, no one checks, doesnt matter if you have to retract, everyone has moved on to the next thing already. Doesnt even matter if your view actually aligns with you or your parties stated views, as long as you can frame it as anti the other guy.

Our democractic system rewards cheap political points over actual held values or actions.

Its rife in both sides. Right now the left controls that original messaging much better than their counterparts in the eyes of the public. But within the parties the same thing is happening. It's just one is better at it than the other so they are at fault for it.
 
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luthervol said:
UNDERSTANDING and even supporting BLM is centrist.
I don't know a single person who thinks COVID should dominate our society.
I certainly do not...I have lived and carried on in a normal way.
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No it isn’t.

You have just shown you are a liar or a hermit. Millions of people, including ones in powerful and influential positions have made it the center of the universe for 2 years.

Done. You’re not intelligent and/or honest enough to deserve my time.
 
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rjd970 said:
If we had 100% vaccination in this country does anyone really believe we would be going back to pre-pandemic life? Would there still be cases and would there still be transmissions and hospitalizations with the at risk groups? The answer to that question should say a lot about the pushback on the vaccines, but I doubt it will to some.

The only thing that will get us over the finish line is making the decision to move on from this and live with it like we do every other virus.
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This. When will people decide enough is enough. The main problem with COVID at this point is we have a segment of our population who lives in fear and wants everyone else to do the same. That and the gvt. Wasted billions on vaccines and what ever kind of drugs they bought so they don't want it to go away so they can't be accused of wasting a ton of money.
 
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I saw this popped up to the top and I thought it might be about Covid, Coronavirus or mandates or something. Clearly, I was wrong (my wife reminds me that while rare, that does happen occasionally).

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luthervol said:
UNDERSTANDING and even supporting BLM is centrist.
I don't know a single person who thinks COVID should dominate our society.
I certainly do not...I have lived and carried on in a normal way.
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The entire states of California and New York are living this way. Hell, Australia is a full on statist society at this point, circa 1984.
 
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AshG said:
At some point, the discussion must be had concerning why there is no looting or large scale destruction of property at rightist protests but they are a fixture of leftist protests. Correlation is not causation, but it's happened too many times.
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The vast majority of BLM protests saw no looting and no destruction. That's a critical point.
But the answer seems pretty obvious. The violence and destruction was almost always in high density urban areas. These are areas where there will be a number of young, unemployed, and unsupervised kids and young adults. They are angry, bitter, and can be stupid. They hate the system as they see it and understand it and get a kick out of doing their little part to destroy it.
They should be arrested and prosecuted.

It's the equivalent of rural rednecks shooting up signs and knocking down mailboxes. (young, stupid, angry, and bitter) If those kids lived together in a high density area, their tendencies would feed off of each other and you would see the same types of behavior.

Being young, stupid, angry, and bitter is not exclusive to the left, but them living together in high density areas is.
 
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The media used to always crucify Trump by saying he promoted racism, division, hate, etc. His actions painted a different story. Dementia Joe comes along and campaigned that he would unite the country. Well, over the past year, it looks like the opposite has been taking place. The government continually brings up things like racism, vax vs unvaxxed, left vs right, etc. If you take a step back and look at the big picture, it's pretty obvious the government wants everyone divided.

We don't live in a perfect world so you are going to have some cases of racism and other conflicts. However, I don't believe this reflects the majority of America. Just an observation.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Now here's the definition of an asinine response. Either that or it was just the run of the mill deflection by you.
It has nothing to do with FOX or CNN. Did the BLM riots burn and loot buisness a month or two in the summer of 2020. It's a yes or no question.
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The vast majority did not.
Are guns stolen and used to commit horrible crimes? It's a yes or no question. But it's a stupid and pointless question.
 
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luthervol said:
The vast majority of BLM protests saw no looting and no destruction. That's a critical point.
But the answer seems pretty obvious. The violence and destruction was almost always in high density urban areas. These are areas where there will be a number of young, unemployed, and unsupervised kids and young adults. They are angry, bitter, and can be stupid. They hate the system as they see it and understand it and get a kick out of doing their little part to destroy it.
They should be arrested and prosecuted.

It's the equivalent of rural rednecks shooting up signs and knocking down mailboxes. (young, stupid, angry, and bitter) If those kids lived together in a high density area, their tendencies would feed off of each other and you would see the same types of behavior.

Being young, stupid, angry, and bitter is not exclusive to the left, but them living together in high density areas is.
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Knocking down mailboxes is like burning someone's buisness to the ground or taking everything inside? Not to me. How did all those urban kids get pallets of bricks set everywhere? These were staged and planned out way higher than "urban kids" on FB or Twitter.
 
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