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#114,351
apevol said:
I aint gonna insult you because you're in a much better position than I am for knowing whats going on through this whole thing, but some of those sound completely insane. if they're true, we've got far more problems than even cynics realize
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They're all true, there's a ton all through this thread with all of them.

My personal favorite is how our national "experts" assured everyone that the vaccine would prevent infection. Then suddenly it prevented a high percentage of infections. Then less. Now it doesn't prevent infection at all but prevents "bad symptoms".
 
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ButchPlz said:
They're all true, there's a ton all through this thread with all of them.

My personal favorite is how our national "experts" assured everyone that the vaccine would prevent infection. Then suddenly it prevented a high percentage of infections. Then less. Now it doesn't prevent infection at all but prevents "bad symptoms".
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From the mouth of our CIC
 
#114,354
#114,354
ButchPlz said:
They're all true, there's a ton all through this thread with all of them.

My personal favorite is how our national "experts" assured everyone that the vaccine would prevent infection. Then suddenly it prevented a high percentage of infections. Then less. Now it doesn't prevent infection at all but prevents "bad symptoms".
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Maybe one day we can get a cold vaccine that cuts my cough from two days to one.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
It's so unbelievable that if a movie had been made depicting this scenario, it would be laughed off and dismissed. Most of what the "discredited" heathens said 16-18 months ago is now slowly becoming accepted thought, and often proven correct.

Examples:
- lab created virus
- Fauci involved in GOF research
- natural immunity
- cross protection from other "cold viruses"
- unwarranted damage to kids' mental health, physical health, and education
- impossible task of a "COVID Zero" policy
- mutations towards a less aggressive endemic virus
- escape of virus from narrow mRNA sequence protection
- herd immunity after ample natural infection
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And by these leaked papers just out, they knew Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin worked as therapeutics.
 
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#114,360
apevol said:
- lab created virus
There's proof of this?
- Fauci involved in GOF research
has been established?
@kiddiedoc
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the second is absolutely proved - Fauci has been a long time supporter of GoF research and his group provided funding for GoF research at the Wuhan Institute or Lab or whatever it's called.

was Covid a lab created virus? I haven't seen definitive proof to validate that claim.
 
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apevol said:
- lab created virus
There's proof of this?
- Fauci involved in GOF research
has been established?
@kiddiedoc
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On a rampage tonight….sorry

newyorkvol said:
I’m on a little rant tonight…

Do a PubMed search on Shi Zhengli and look at her research pre-2020. Then understand EcoAlliance was funding the Wuhan lab with money it received from the NIH. Fauci and Collins both approved that funding.

Here’s one of her studies from 2015…manipulating spike proteins of bat corona viruses to work on human ACE2 receptors. Sound familiar????
A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence - PubMed

To be clear, I do think it was accidentally released. But I also think Fauci knew and knows exactly what was going on.
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newyorkvol said:
Fauci 2012
“In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario – however remote – should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision? Scientists working in this field might say – as indeed I have said – that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks.”
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volinbham said:
the second is absolutely proved - Fauci has been a long time supporter of GoF research and his group provided funding for GoF research at the Wuhan Institute or Lab or whatever it's called.

was Covid a lab created virus? I haven't seen definitive proof to validate that claim.
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Check out that 2015 study from Zhengli. It’s “uncanny.”
 
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kiddiedoc said:
It's so unbelievable that if a movie had been made depicting this scenario, it would be laughed off and dismissed. Most of what the "discredited" heathens said 16-18 months ago is now slowly becoming accepted thought, and often proven correct.

Examples:
- lab created virus
- Fauci involved in GOF research
- natural immunity
- cross protection from other "cold viruses"
- unwarranted damage to kids' mental health, physical health, and education
- impossible task of a "COVID Zero" policy
- mutations towards a less aggressive endemic virus
- escape of virus from narrow mRNA sequence protection
- herd immunity after ample natural infection
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Add to that:

over counting of deaths/hospitalizations by counting "with" not "from"
 
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volinbham said:
the second is absolutely proved - Fauci has been a long time supporter of GoF research and his group provided funding for GoF research at the Wuhan Institute or Lab or whatever it's called.

was Covid a lab created virus? I haven't seen definitive proof to validate that claim.
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well thats just interesting..
 
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#114,368
volinbham said:
I don't doubt it could have happened but so far we don't have enough proof to make that a definitive claim.

OTOH, the evidence shows Fauci funded GoF research so I'm comfortable treating that as fact.
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Difference in Receptor Usage between Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Coronavirus and SARS-Like Coronavirus of Bat Origin

How about this one from ‘08?? Using HIV based pseudo virus with SARS-Cov to affect human ACE2 cell receptors?

Who in the US was the Leading HIV scientist??
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
People are talking about the moving target of the cdc guidelines for Covid.
Edit.
It’s more like skeet shooting than following scientific data
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Skeet with an automatic shotgun and you are a conspiracy theorist for saying they never hit clay as it hits the ground in one piece.
 
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