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VolinWayne said:
Chris Davies and his father Donald have been fighting for their mother and wife Kathy Davies’ right to try the drug Ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment at Fauquier Health hospital in Warrenton, Virginia, for the past few weeks. But the hospital — where Chris happens to work as a radiologic technologist — had put his mother through a series of legal hoops seemingly designed to block the treatment from being given to her.

On Monday, December 13, Virginia’s 20th Judicial Court found Fauquier Health in contempt of court after refusing to comply with previous orders and ruled that by 9:00 p.m. Eastern time tonight, Kathy Davies must be given the dose of Ivermectin as prescribed by a doctor retained by the Davies family. Additionally — if the hospital did not comply — the state had the right to fine the hospital $10,000 per day. That order would have been applied retroactively from December 9 onwards. The court also ordered that the Davies family be given police escort if necessary to administer the drug to their mother.




Virginia Hospital Found In Contempt Of Court, Subject To $10k Per Day Fines After Denying Patient Ivermectin | The Daily Wire
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Hopefully it works.
 
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newyorkvol said:
From the article….
“Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training.”
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For parasites.
 
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AshG said:
Cool. Give me the journal listings for the conclusive research findings that would transition the data from anecdotal to formal in the eyes of a judge.
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Again, they do not want this drug to be used as a treatment for COVID. They have had plenty of time to study this.
 
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AshG said:
If the US were a primarily tropical country with a significant base of population that had been treated for parasitic diseases, then I would be in full support of your stance here. But let's be honest: an overwhelming majority of Americans had never heard of ivermectin before this mess, and those who were familiar with it were primarily veterinarians and farmers.

The cultural bent of the medicine in the US has been significantly animal related for decades. You can't flip a switch and change a mindset to "Oh! It's a people drug now!" when that hasn't been the case here.

And I don't know what's been said about it on TV or the radio.
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Almost no one in the US had heard of it prior to Covid, so there was no mindset towards it.
 
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AshG said:
For parasites.
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That's not the point. If it's safe for human use, which it is, why not allow doctors to prescribe it for patients with Covid if it "could" help? It's harmless, so there is no risk unless they have some fluke allergic reaction or something which could happen with anything.
 
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utvols88 said:
There's some weird stuff going around. Last Friday morning I had a 102 fever, fatigue, body aches, headache. By 8pm it was gone. Like it was never there. A couple neighbors had the same thing earlier in the week. Wtf?
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That sounds like me March 2020. I was fine at dinner. Had the exact same symptoms you described an hour later, then by lunch the next day I was running, feeling great.
 
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LouderVol said:
That sounds like me March 2020. I was fine at dinner. Had the exact same symptoms you described an hour later, then by lunch the next day I was running, feeling great.
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My mom just had something like this. It was a day after her shingles shot, so I assume it was a reaction to that, but it was intense, made her feel terrible, and then it was gone.
 
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On another note- wife and I will be in Knoxville with family the day after Christmas. We leave about two and a half days later for Peru. Do any of you have recommendations for somewhere we can get a PCR test in town that day?
 
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AshG said:
For parasites.
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Does the bodies reaction to a drug change based on the disease? I could see efficacy changing, and acceptability of risk based on disease impacts. But I wouldnt think one drug would suddenly generate different reactions.

Like does aspirin carry different risks when taking for a headache vs a heart attack?
 
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SlingBlayde said:
That's not the point. If it's safe for human use, which it is, why not allow doctors to prescribe it for patients with Covid if it "could" help? It's harmless, so there is no risk unless they have some fluke allergic reaction or something which could happen with anything.
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I used to be able to get colchicine for my gout flare ups. Bear in mind that colchicine is a cancer medication that is generally safe when administered properly; it was discovered by accident that it halted gout flare ups in their tracks.

Now, I can't get it anymore. They must want it buried for some reason. Insurance won't even pay for it now.
 
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ButchPlz said:
My mom just had something like this. It was a day after her shingles shot, so I assume it was a reaction to that, but it was intense, made her feel terrible, and then it was gone.
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It was the weirdest sick I have ever dealt with. No shot or anything to explain.
 
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VolinWayne said:
. Problems are best solved by bringing great minds together to debate different viewpoints and together come up with the lifesaving methods moving forward.
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Yes! That's what I've been advocating. Examine previous work, construct a methodology, document processes and outcomes, then have other like-minded groups reproduce the testing and see if there are similar outcomes.

That's exactly what should be done.
 
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SlingBlayde said:
That's not the point. If it's safe for human use, which it is, why not allow doctors to prescribe it for patients with Covid if it "could" help? It's harmless, so there is no risk unless they have some fluke allergic reaction or something which could happen with anything.
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Because it's been shown the dosage required to be beneficial is too high. Hcq is also not effective in the lungs but people still count to that one as well

I'm all for people trying what they want under the supervision of a Dr but the cries of "but big pharma!" are quite overblown
 
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