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LouderVol said:
From that blurb the court ordered that they could enforce quarantines, and the AG was enforcing that.

Stopping all other works seems to be a determination of the local health department without outside force.
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If I'm reading that right, that government department is essentially saying "if I can't do the mandates that violate constitutional rights to stop the spread, I'm not going to do the things I should be doing (and have always done) to stop the spread." My 11 year old has more maturity than that. He stopped playing the 'take my ball and go home' game years ago. This level of maturity is precisely why the government shouldn't be making my personal decisions.
 
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red butler said:
If I'm reading that right, that government department is essentially saying "if I can't do the mandates that violate constitutional rights to stop the spread, I'm not going to do the things I should be doing (and have always done) to stop the spread." My 11 year old has more maturity than that. He stopped playing the 'take my ball and go home' game years ago. This level of maturity is precisely why the government shouldn't be making my personal decisions.
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Have you ever met the average bureaucrat?

The best ones are this petty. The worst will intentionally try to ruin your entire life for messing with them.
 
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OHvol40 said:
“Therapeutics” for viruses have always been iffy at best, ineffective at worst. It’s not like antibiotics for bacterial infection.
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Antivirals work great in severe HSV infections, have practically cured HIV, and the newer ones are quite effective vs influenza if started early. I've had great luck with Tamiflu and Xofluza.
 
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OHvol40 said:
When did I discourage scrutinization or support mandates?
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You didn't discourage it. You said that looking for absolutes and clarity on a novel virus is setting the bar too high... meaning that there is even in your own mind expectations need to be reigned in because of all of the uncertainty.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Antivirals work great in severe HSV infections, have practically cured HIV, and the newer ones are quite effective vs influenza if started early. I've had great luck with Tamiflu and Xofluza.
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You’re contending that antivirals have been as effective as antibiotics?
 
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OHvol40 said:
“Therapeutics” for viruses have always been iffy at best, ineffective at worst. It’s not like antibiotics for bacterial infection.
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My understanding is that was the the case for coronavirus vaccines. But it seems there was a leap forward in progress on that front.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You didn't discourage it. You said that looking for absolutes and clarity on a novel virus is setting the bar too high... meaning that there is even in your own mind expectations need to be reigned in because of all of the uncertainty.
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I never said it’s too high, I said it’s naive… as-in adequate information takes time and diligence
 
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red butler said:
If I'm reading that right, that government department is essentially saying "if I can't do the mandates that violate constitutional rights to stop the spread, I'm not going to do the things I should be doing (and have always done) to stop the spread." My 11 year old has more maturity than that. He stopped playing the 'take my ball and go home' game years ago. This level of maturity is precisely why the government shouldn't be making my personal decisions.
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Yeah, that's how I read it too. I didnt go diving for more info to see if there was more to this "cease and desist", but from the quoted this does not help M4V's stance AT ALL. @mad4vols got any more light to shed on this?
 
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newyorkvol said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/04/omicron-coronavirus-transmissible-cold-variant/

“The omicron variant is likely to have picked up genetic material from another virus that causes the common cold in humans, according to a new preliminary study, prompting one of its authors to suggest omicron could have greater transmissibility but lower virulence than other variants of the coronavirus.”
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Great, so now viruses are breeding under Biden. Thanks Joe!
 
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ButchPlz said:
Have you ever met the average bureaucrat?

The best ones are this petty. The worst will intentionally try to ruin your entire life for messing with them.
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Bureaucracy is to society what entropy is to physics. It’s inefficiency and reflexive imperative to preserve itself long after all need for it passes, is the literal “heat death” that eventually brings every human society that has ever existed to a state of frozen, quivering gelatin incapable of performing the most basic functions of governing. The apparatus of the state becomes wholly fixated on winning turf battles with its competing departments and in justifying its continuing and ever increasing budget and reach. The bureaucracy becomes its own reason for its existence and the only real recipient of its own service. That’s why the number one priority for the Republicans when they regain power is to cut budgets WITHOUT MERCY. The howls of fear and anger from the beltway denizens and their political enablers in both parties will be intense, worse than a three year old demanding a candy bar in the checkout lane; but it has to be done. The media will call the budget cutters “grandma killers” who want to starve, Freeze, and deny essential services to children, but it has to be done. The cancer on our Republic is deep and it has metastasized beyond all recognition. The scapel has to go deep and cannot stop cutting until every government agency not performing an essential function enumerated unter Article 1 of the Constitution becomes a historical footnote. Start with the Department of Education and keep going!!!
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