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LadyinOrange said:
Every time the camera zoomed in on Hendon Hooker it looked like he was burning up. Maybe he just sweats a lot, but black is not a good idea if you want to keep cool.
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Imagine playing games and your team is five degrees cooler than the other team. They're cooler, they're more comfortable, they're happier....they're gonna play better.
 
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DonDiego said:
Even though I'm generally open to uniform variations, I gotta say, the visuals of the black unis just didn't do anything for me. A little disappointing because I expected them to. Maybe it was just me or maybe they should have been rolled out with a bigger venue, I don't know, but I was underwhelmed. I think they should have been saved for Ole Miss or GA. What say you?
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Good post. I’m in full agreement. I liked the unis a lot when I saw them but they seemed to lose something on the field. Night game would be better and as much as I liked the work done on our helmets, need a black version to pull it all in. Matte maybe, don’t think it would matter.
As others have said, the players loved them and hopefully the black helmets are still on order. Put then in the rotation for once a year if you’re asking me.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
Alontae Taylor went live on IG after the game and said “Some people were saying they are ugly. We loved them, the players all loved them”

Keep ‘em.
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There is probably some changes that should be made. but I like the idea of alternative uniforms. We have to remember that with Covid, there were a lot of restrictions to what could be done. On TV, the black often looked like Navy Blue rather than black. I think I actually liked the Halloween uniforms against USCe than those yesterday. I would have like orange or black helmets with both
 
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pastorvol said:
Are we really having this conversation today? The uniforms are not for the fans; they are for the players! If they love them, I'm all in!
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That’s what the forum is for. OP states they are open to uniform variations but didn’t personally care for these. You’re complaining like he’s one of the stubborn traditionalists
 
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I was pleasantly surprised how good I thought they looked. The white helmet with black accents/outlines looked a lot better than expected. I guess the scoreboard can make them look spectacular or garbage.
 
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Orange and White for me BUT if we are to have alternate uni‘s then I prefer the black jerseys with white pants that we used against SC on Halloween in 2009 with one exception, use black stripes on the pants rather than orange. GBO !!!
 
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Too many insightful things mentioned so far on this thread to bring them all in as quotes.

How it makes the players feel is definitely real. You can dismiss it a pre-game pep talk-in-polyester, but it boosted the emotional anticipation level of the players. (Which, on the flip side, may have played a role in the 2nd half drop off. Up until yesterday, the team's focus has been entirely on performance, in-the-moment focus, fulfilling assignments and playing with speed. The anticipatory high from the uniforms taps into a different dopominergic pathway from that of reward from accomplishment--i.e., the difference between the feeling from having successfully rebuilt the engine of a '63 'vette vs. the feeling of anticipating being seen driving around in a '63 Stingray convertible.)

That it improves recruiting is also evidently real. Heupel's professional personality seems closer to a manager/engineer than a showman. If he says it helps recruiting, then I believe he has objective evidence to back it up. One thing we keep hearing is how much players enjoy playing for and with this coaching staff. Bending traditions to offer players a new gameday experience gives visual expression to that behind-the-scenes reality. And it generates social media comments among potential recruits.

Black under sunshine absorbs radiant energy. That extra heat is not a competitive advantage, unless air temps are below freezing.

If the guys respond to looking like action movie or video game characters, then matte-black helmets would definitely better complete the look.

The unis had too many shades of orange, at least on TV under daylight. The jersey numbers were red-orange, and the pant stripes looked nearly yellow. It's a nightmare for quality control, because different materials require different dyes or tints, and each looks different under different light sources and from different distances. (I have a pair of poly-blend slacks that are smokey gray under the light in my closet, but are green in sunlight! The silk or wool ties they match inside do not match at all outside. It's another good reason to just stay in bed.)

It could be that they used the same orange paints and fabrics as used on the white unis, but their inherent differences were just magnified on TV against a black background. I've no doubt the colors would look differently under cloudy skies, and differently still under stadium lights--and maybe differently again under different stadium lights (unless the gods of ESPN have mandated that all stadiums use the exact same light sources).

My last comment is to offer objective confirmation to a subjective observation. Having had a career in graphic design, it's just a fact of color harmony: Tennessee orange (#F07900) on black is not pleasing to the human eye. Against black, the redder the orange, the worse it looks; the more yellow the orange, the better it looks. In the science of color harmony, Tennessee orange looks best against white, and against lighter, warmer grays (thus, the "smokey gray" attempt to create a compromise).

But, good or bad, color harmony is only relevant to observers, not the men in the arena. Our players logically enjoy wearing a look that is disruptive, chaotic, and violent. So what is a fault for the observer's eye becomes a feature for the players wearing it.

There are some ways to make the black uniforms appear more harmonious. Some of them have already been voiced here.

But I'm wondering if the fashion eye of young people may already be shifting away from the Marvel Universe techno-complexity of CGI, toward simplicity--from appearances to values. If so, maybe we end up with a black uni that's more retro--maybe not retro all the way back to horizontal stripes, but just black, with a black helmet, and a narrow white outline around the orange numerals.

Now: for the fan, does it "look like" Tennessee? No. This brain has been hardwired by 50+ seasons to associate orange & white with the Volunteers. Watching the game replay (having heard the game on radio) was noticeably not as satisfying, because I had to keep reminding myself that those strange looking players were my Tennessee Vols. And that's not something to easily dismiss! If suddenly your mother or your wife looks like someone completely different, you're not going to experience the same feelings when you see or hug them. And becoming a football fan is all about how it makes us feel. So doing this occasionally for the players is probably the best compromise. After all, for long-time VFLs, winning is Tennessee's tradition, as much as wearing orange & white.

Regardless of our individual preferences, players repeatedly performing and acting like winners can eventually imbue any alternative uniform with VFL pride. That's as it should be, and what we all wish for the generations coming behind us.
 
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Being in the 80's wearing black for sure made them sweat a little more. If it is 80 or hotter, I would save the black for nightime next time. A real cool day it would be okay, but it was pretty warm yesterday I think it did get to the defense a little. GBO!!!!
 
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Surprised I've only seen one person bring up how they looked navy blue on TV.

Was talking to my dad on the phone and he said "why is TN wearing blue??" I had to convince him it was black.

So yeah, they'd look better at night. And they'd look about 100% better with matte black helmets.
 
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LadyinOrange said:
Every time the camera zoomed in on Hendon Hooker it looked like he was burning up. Maybe he just sweats a lot, but black is not a good idea if you want to keep cool.
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Didn't look like the heat was bothering them to me. ...but hey maybe we would of broke a 100 in orange and white.
I think they should go black helmets with them.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Surprised I've only seen one person bring up how they looked navy blue on TV.

Was talking to my dad on the phone and he said "why is TN wearing blue??" I had to convince him it was black.

So yeah, they'd look better at night. And they'd look about 100% better with matte black helmets.
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Didn’t look Navy Blue on my TV…. Fix your settings? Get a better TV?
 
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I liked them better than the grey ones. I do think they can use a tweak, starting with the helmet. Picking a noon game over a night game vs Oke Miss? That falls in the what were you thinking category.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Surprised I've only seen one person bring up how they looked navy blue on TV.

Was talking to my dad on the phone and he said "why is TN wearing blue??" I had to convince him it was black.

So yeah, they'd look better at night. And they'd look about 100% better with matte black helmets.
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It’s hard to get the colors right because everything changes when the fabric gets wet. I heard people complain that the numbers were the wrong color Orange…. go sweat in a t-shirt and see if it changes colors.
 
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golfballs said:
Imagine playing games and your team is five degrees cooler than the other team. They're cooler, they're more comfortable, they're happier....they're gonna play better.
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They all look good to me, but I think that the black jerseys would be hotter on a sunny day. They should be night only, imo.
Orange and white, white and orange are definitely my favorite but loves me some SMOKY GREYS with those smoky grey matching HELMETS with the Great Smoky Mountains faded in.
 
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chadslaughter said:
The white helmets provided too much contrast for me. The helmets should be orange or black.

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Yes yes yes
 
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BruisedOrange said:
My last comment is to offer objective confirmation to a subjective observation. Having had a career in graphic design, it's just a fact of color harmony: Tennessee orange (#F07900) on black is not pleasing to the human eye. Against black, the redder the orange, the worse it looks; the more yellow the orange, the better it looks. In the science of color harmony, Tennessee orange looks best against white, and against lighter, warmer grays (thus, the "smokey gray" attempt to create a compromise).
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A white outline around the numbers and stripes would help with this and also the extra added white would balance with the helmets being they weren't able to do black.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
My last comment is to offer objective confirmation to a subjective observation. Having had a career in graphic design, it's just a fact of color harmony: Tennessee orange (#F07900) on black is not pleasing to the human eye. Against black, the redder the orange, the worse it looks; the more yellow the orange, the better it looks. In the science of color harmony, Tennessee orange looks best against white, and against lighter, warmer grays (thus, the "smokey gray" attempt to create a compromise).
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Yep, agree mostly. The Baltimore Orioles and SF Giants colors are orange and black, and they do a good job with their black jerseys and orange lettering. However, their orange is a red orange or even a red orange red. I would have liked these a lot more if the had orange helmets. SC was wearing white helmets, so there would have been greater differentiation if we had orange helmets. And if we are going to go this route, go full Oregon and use ascreaming orange if the kids would like that. All in all, I'd like the greys with orange and orange helmets better than the black. LIke the baseball team greys. They look great. So do their off-whites with orange.
 
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#50
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nomads-11 said:
I liked them better than the grey ones. I do think they can use a tweak, starting with the helmet. Picking a noon game over a night game vs Oke Miss? That falls in the what were you thinking category.
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They wanted Black helmets and couldn’t source them lol does no one pay attention anymore..::
 
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