Coronavirus (No politics)

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🚨🚨🚨BREAKING: #COVID19 situation dire in West Tennessee. @uthsc warns ERs may soon be forced to triage medical care, turning away patients who, they believe, are unlikely to survive! Failure to impose mask mandates and other mitigation measures will be “catastrophic.”🚨🚨🚨 https://t.co/5IIVkr5CHU
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You say this...

Bassmaster_Vol said:
I see that. And you're right. So when we say "they're up 300%!" That sounds scary. But in reality, these are not significant numbers at all. That's exactly the point I've been trying to make.

All hospitalizations and deaths are bad. But we are not seeing some crazy spike in the young hospitalized or dying from this virus. Thankfully.
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Yet you do the same thing here...

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Hawaii ranks 51st (including DC) in cases per 1M pop and in deaths per 1M pop. Their current "surge" has yielded a 7 day average around 700 cases per day. If the goal is to prevent covid, they've done better than literally every other state plus DC. They could fire back with the truthful claim that Tennessee has 483% more deaths per 1M pop then Hawaii does. I'm not agreeing with their method since it came at untold other costs, but it seems disingenuous to claim percentages are being used to manipulate opinion and then use percentages to manipulate opinion. The disingenuous claims of the coronabros are rivaled only by the disingenuous claims of the no-ronabros.
 
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TheColdVolTruth said:
You say this...



Yet you do the same thing here...



Hawaii ranks 51st (including DC) in cases per 1M pop and in deaths per 1M pop. Their current "surge" has yielded a 7 day average around 700 cases per day. If the goal is to prevent covid, they've done better than literally every other state plus DC. They could fire back with the truthful claim that Tennessee has 483% more deaths per 1M pop then Hawaii does. I'm not agreeing with their method since it came at untold other costs, but it seems disingenuous to claim percentages are being used to manipulate opinion and then use percentages to manipulate opinion. The disingenuous claims of the coronabros are rivaled only by the disingenuous claims of the no-ronabros.
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You're not totally off here, but the point in the second tweet is not to peddle some crazy percentage, rather it is just to point out that mask wearing has not stopped or even slowed the spread. That's not the same as saying "The delta is affecting children! Panic! Fear!" When, in reality, it's not.

So similar, so I see why you said it, but not the same.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
You're not totally off here, but the point in the second tweet is not to peddle some crazy percentage, rather it is just to point out that mask wearing has not stopped or even slowed the spread. That's not the same as saying "The delta is affecting children! Panic! Fear!" When, in reality, it's not.

So similar, so I see why you said it, but not the same.
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You keep saying the response by Hawaii didn't stop or slow the spread. Lay their graph over the graph of every other state in the nation (as you noted in the previous discussion about age and hospitalizations) and you would see how low their numbers are relative to the rest of the nation. Slowing the spread is exactly what they've done. Again, they have a lower case count and death count per Capita than any other state, and it's not even close. It's not hard to see a meteoric percentage rise in hospitalizations when their number was 40 (in a state with a population of 1.4M) just a couple of months ago. They also decimated their tourism and hospitality industries, and have created countless other issues. The argument can be made that their methods to slow covid spread in their state weren't worth the cost, but their is no argument that their method failed to slow the spread. They're an island state who placed themselves in a bubble. It certainly slowed the spread. One polar extreme of the argument uses their stats to try to dunk on the other, and the other polar extreme does the same. It's really close to the same.
 
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. Yea I don’t think anybody thinks this came from a food market or bat this mutates wayyyyyyy too quickly this was a bio weapon unleashed on the world by them especially to hurt and kill us and right now China is winning.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
We should and I hope we boycott the Winter Olympics next February in Beijing. 🖕🖕🖕 China and the Chinese people I seriously want 5 minutes alone with a baseball bat and that lying dirty Chinese president.
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It wouldn't bother me, but beating them on their turf would be pretty sweet too
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Be that as it may, isn't it fair to say that COVID was still one of the differentiating factors between life and death for a lot of those children? Regardless of whether they had pre-existing medical conditions or not, COVID was still a factor in their deaths and shouldn't be discounted or treated any less serious.

This reminds me of those early on in the pandemic who were flippantly saying "well it only seriously affects the elderly". And my response to those people was, uh yeah and? Do their lives not count for something as well? Should we still not take every precaution necessary to protect them?

The problem is too many are looking at this pandemic from a completely selfish and self-centered viewpoint. You don't wear a mask for YOUR benefit. You wear it in consideration for others. You don't practice social distancing just for YOUR benefit, you do it also for the benefit of others. You don't get vaccinated just for YOUR benefit. You do it to help slow the perpetuation and mutation of the virus, which benefits everyone. IMO there's a pandemic of self-centeredness thats contributing to the exacerbation of the medical one. But go right on playing politics because that's more important. Go 'Murica!!
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The selfish political ones are the ones wagging their finger at everyone else and preaching what they think to be the gospel. Save your breath. You could be shown evidence that masks are a farce but you wouldn't believe it so what's the point? Quit pointing fingers and blaming innocent people who don't believe the same BS that you do. Go about your business and wear your mask.
 
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vollygirl said:
A girl I go to church with has a niece currently in the hospital with MIS-C. She's still on a ventilator. She's 4.
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We saw several very bad cases of MISC earlier this year, however we haven't had any cases in months. I pray that the little girl makes a full recovery.
 
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