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The politicization of a world wide pandemic continues to baffle me. I’m a moderate. That said, five years ago it was easy to see I had leanings on both sides. The right has a large portion of its base that has moved so far right, I don’t think I appear very moderate anymore even though most of my views are the same. The vaccine was set up under the other administration (not that that administration had anything to do with it really), but now I see so many supporters of that other administration refusing to get a vaccine. I literally don’t get it.
 
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volfanbill said:
The politicization of a world wide pandemic continues to baffle me. I’m a moderate. That said, five years ago it was easy to see I had leanings on both sides. The right has a large portion of its base that has moved so far right, I don’t think I appear very moderate anymore even though most of my views are the same. The vaccine was set up under the other administration (not that that administration had anything to do with it really), but now I see so many supporters of that other administration refusing to get a vaccine. I literally don’t get it.
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I am for liberty. I get pegged conservative because I vote for the people who most support the component of liberty that I consider essential to all others, which is the right to control your own person and your property including the right to defend both. I don't much care what someone wants to do with their own body and property and I feel absolutely zero responsibility to help them if they do something stupid and screw it all up for themselves. I'd say I'm a libertarian but I don't think the official libertarian party in this country is really libertarian seeing as how they reject the notion of the people retaining the right to revolt against a tyrannical government, which pretty much means that, at least on a philosophical level, they reject the principle on which this country was founded. I'm also a realist. there are two parties that have a chance to win national and most statewide elections in this country. To vote for a third party is a throwaway vote at this point.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I am for liberty. I get pegged conservative because I vote for the people who most support the component of liberty that I consider essential to all others, which is the right to control your own person and your property including the right to defend both. I don't much care what someone wants to do with their own body and property and I feel absolutely zero responsibility to help them if they do something stupid and screw it all up for themselves.
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So you are pro choice?
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
So you are pro choice?
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I feel I don’t have a say in what a woman does with her body. Neither should the govt IMO. If you want to spin this into the vaccine, I feel the govt shouldn’t make things mandatory for their citizens.

That doesn’t mean I don’t think those citizens shouldn’t get the vaccine. They should do it for the better of everyone.
 
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volfanbill said:
I feel I don’t have a say in what a woman does with her body. Neither should the govt IMO. If you want to spin this into the vaccine, I feel the govt shouldn’t make things mandatory for their citizens.

That doesn’t mean I don’t think those citizens shouldn’t get the vaccine. They should do it for the better of everyone.
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Pretty much how I feel. Since Mojo asked, I'll go on to add that I am not inclined to subordinate the ability exercise dominion over my own body and property in order to support someone else's ability to do something with their own body that I cannot myself do.
 
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volfanbill said:
The politicization of a world wide pandemic continues to baffle me. I’m a moderate. That said, five years ago it was easy to see I had leanings on both sides. The right has a large portion of its base that has moved so far right, I don’t think I appear very moderate anymore even though most of my views are the same. The vaccine was set up under the other administration (not that that administration had anything to do with it really), but now I see so many supporters of that other administration refusing to get a vaccine. I literally don’t get it.
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I'll play devil's advocate and remind you that the current administration sowed doubts about whether a vaccine would be safe "because Trump".
 
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I do have some left leaning friends who don’t do any western medicine. This whole thing has torn them up. They may be the sort of people who would buy a fake vax card.
 
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Hell one of our city representatives had to get on TV and show his constituents he was getting the vaccine and it was safe. This was like last week. I'm like dude why didn't you do this in March
 
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I’m going to say this one time and I may or may not shut up about it (who knows with me). I’m fully vaccinated. I’ve had to be tested twice this week because of two of my school age work kids testing positive and will again Monday and because of where I work. My son’s family had to go through testing this morning (all negative, thank you Lord) and all of them are vaccinated. After what I’ve seen in the last year and half, I will not go down that road of left or right. I will not tell anyone to get the vaccine, because it’s a personal choice, but damn, take the precautions. I’m sick of worrying and a nose swab shoved up my nose every time I blink.
 
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