Coronavirus (No politics)

[whodatvol]

Bill Lee has as much power as Bernard P Fife. Big boys are getting filthy rich, like Klaus Schwab and the economic forum are making hay and they paid for the COVID patent probably. It’s a power grabbing, money making theatrical presentation.

 

[walkenvol]

I go to hospitals and clinics everyday...but that is my job.

Good luck to you then. Hopefully folks like yourself build up better immunities by being exposed to stuff on a daily basis compared to folks like me who aren’t around the general public very much.

 

[jp1]

Mask mandates for children is not only stupid, but immoral and brings lots of consequences. They are not in danger from this virus. If you never required masks for flu in schools, it makes no sense to want masks for a less threatening virus.

Just out of curiosity, what about masking makes it immoral, much less dangerous for young people? While I agree that the vast majority of children will recover from Covid, I can show you 5 cases this morning that will prove "They are not in danger from this virus" to be false.

 

[davethevol]

Just out of curiosity, what about masking makes it immoral, much less dangerous for young people? While I agree that the vast majority of children will recover from Covid, I can show you 5 cases this morning that will prove "They are not in danger from this virus" to be false.

The mental health aspect. Do you have kids? I do, and I can tell you first hand about the anxiety and depression it’s caused. I’ve had to have my oldest kid get counseling because of this. Also, my kids had Covid with minor issues.

 

[Regulator]

Had a four year old test positive yesterday. He got it at a birthday party. His mom is positive also, and six months pregnant.

 

[vollygirl]

Just out of curiosity, what about masking makes it immoral, much less dangerous for young people? While I agree that the vast majority of children will recover from Covid, I can show you 5 cases this morning that will prove "They are not in danger from this virus" to be false.

You're not gonna get an answer. You're the third person that's asked.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Good luck to you then. Hopefully folks like yourself build up better immunities by being exposed to stuff on a daily basis compared to folks like me who aren’t around the general public very much.

Already had Covid and been vaxxed...so I ain't skeered of it, but I don't want to somehow give it to the poor stupid old unhealthy fools up here I drive around that are scared to death of the vaccine because of idiots telling them insane . I try to do everything I can to be safe around them. I think the vaccinated percentage in this area of southeastern Ky is something like 35%, with a lot of those being unhealthy, or elderly or both..

Right now up here they are dropping like flies..I respect their right to choose death, even though I think it is stupid. I just don't want their choice hindering my life anymore. I am over the lockdown crap. I was over it a year ago.

 

[jp1]

You're not gonna get an answer. You're the third person that's asked.

I get the hesitancy for many with the vaccination, however I struggle with the vitriol I see sometimes with the masking. I have no issue with peoples personal choice on either, just trying to see their line of thinking thats all.

 

[jp1]

The mental health aspect. Do you have kids? I do, and I can tell you first hand about the anxiety and depression it’s caused. I’ve had to have my oldest kid get counseling because of this. Also, my kids had Covid with minor issues.

I do have kids, one pre-teen and one a teenager. I'm also a Healthcare provider so I understand the struggle, but I have also seen the ugly side that many don't see. I'm not trying to lecture folks, only trying to learn their prospective.

As for your comment on the mental aspect, is the anxiety and depression related to the mask or the disease itself?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Just out of curiosity, what about masking makes it immoral, much less dangerous for young people? While I agree that the vast majority of children will recover from Covid, I can show you 5 cases this morning that will prove "They are not in danger from this virus" to be false.

1. Masks don't work. Pretending that they do is teaching our children to live by lies.











2. Masks can be psychologically damaging as they enforce the idea that other people are dangerous and that children should be afraid of them, and generally live in fear. It's terrible and psychologically damaging.

3. Masks hinder development of children in reading social cues because they cannot observe non verbal communication. They can't see the teacher annunciate words either.

4. There are health issues with masks. It's like we've just forgotten science over the last year. Go back to before the virus got political and listen to Fauci then. What does he say? "Masks have unintended consequences because people are constantly messing with them and touching their face." What are children going to be doing with their masks except messing with their face all day?





5. Masks also cause children to have difficulty breathing when they're wearing them for 8 hours a day, and they're coughing into those masks, and there's dust in that mask, they sweat into those masks. What about the effects on their immune system?

In every way it is wrong for children to wear masks. and again, this virus is not deadly for children. Around 300 school aged children in total have died from this virus. Over 4 million children have contracted the virus, a total of .008% have died. 480 kids died from the flu in the 2018-2019 flu season, that is more children than have died in a year and a half from covid. Did you mask for the flu? Further, I would be willing to bet my life savings that the vast, vast majority of those children who died from covid had extreme co-morbidities, or were of the fudged number variety who happened to have covid when they died. These children were not little Johnny running around the playground one day completely healthy, catches covid, then he dies. Those instances would be of the extreme rare variety. That isn't even happening to middle aged men at any decent rate, let alone healthy children.

Hospitalizations are terrible, but masks would not prevent them. Further, when the delta spike decreases, and it will very soon, those numbers will go down as well. Masks do not help and are completely pointless and is likely to be more harmful than helpful to children. And again, this virus is not as deadly to school aged children as the seasonal flu and none of you wanted children wearing masks before. Masking children is not keeping them safe, masking children makes adults, who could be vaccinated if they want, feel better. It's wrong.

 

[jp1]

1. Masks don't work. Pretending that they do is teaching our children to live by lies.





2. Masks enforce the idea that other people are dangerous and that children should be afraid of them, and generally live in fear. It's terrible and psychologically damaging.

3. Masks hinder development of children in reading social cues because they cannot observe non verbal communication. They can't see the teacher annunciate words either.

4. There are health issues with masks. It's like we've just forgotten science over the last year. Go back to before the virus got political and listen to Fauci then. What does he say? "Masks can do more harm than good because people are constantly messing with them and touching their face." What are children going to be doing with their masks except messing with their face all day?

5. Masks also cause children to have difficulty breathing when they're wearing them for 8 hours a day, and they're coughing into those masks, and there's dust in that mask, they sweat into those masks. What about the effects on their immune system?

In every way it is wrong for children to wear masks. and again, this virus is not deadly for children. Around 300 school aged children in total have died from this virus. Over 4 million children have contracted the virus, a total of .008% have died. 480 kids died from the flu in 2018-2019 flu season. Did you mask for the flu? Further, I would be willing to bet my life savings that the vast, vast majority of those children who died from covid had extreme co-morbidities, or were of the fudged number variety who happened to have covid when they died. These children were not little Johnny running around the playground one day completely healthy, catches covid, then he dies. Those instances would be of the extreme rare variety. That isn't even happening to middle aged men at any decent rate, let alone healthy children.

Hospitalizations are terrible, but masks would not prevent them. Further, when the delta spike decreases, and it will very soon, those numbers will go down as well. Masks do not help and are completely pointless. And again, this virus is not as deadly to school aged children as the seasonal flu and none of you wanted children wearing masks before. Masking children is not keeping them safe, masking children makes adults, who could be vaccinated if they want, feel better. It's stupid.

I appreciate your response, however I do not think all of what you typed to be factual. It does allow me to see your viewpoint and I can appreciate that.

 

[MAD]

1. Masks don't work. Pretending that they do is teaching our children to live by lies.





2. Masks can be psychologically damaging as they enforce the idea that other people are dangerous and that children should be afraid of them, and generally live in fear. It's terrible and psychologically damaging.

3. Masks hinder development of children in reading social cues because they cannot observe non verbal communication. They can't see the teacher annunciate words either.

4. There are health issues with masks. It's like we've just forgotten science over the last year. Go back to before the virus got political and listen to Fauci then. What does he say? "Masks have unintended consequences because people are constantly messing with them and touching their face." What are children going to be doing with their masks except messing with their face all day?





5. Masks also cause children to have difficulty breathing when they're wearing them for 8 hours a day, and they're coughing into those masks, and there's dust in that mask, they sweat into those masks. What about the effects on their immune system?

In every way it is wrong for children to wear masks. and again, this virus is not deadly for children. Around 300 school aged children in total have died from this virus. Over 4 million children have contracted the virus, a total of .008% have died. 480 kids died from the flu in the 2018-2019 flu season, that is more children than have died in a year and a half from covid. Did you mask for the flu? Further, I would be willing to bet my life savings that the vast, vast majority of those children who died from covid had extreme co-morbidities, or were of the fudged number variety who happened to have covid when they died. These children were not little Johnny running around the playground one day completely healthy, catches covid, then he dies. Those instances would be of the extreme rare variety. That isn't even happening to middle aged men at any decent rate, let alone healthy children.

Hospitalizations are terrible, but masks would not prevent them. Further, when the delta spike decreases, and it will very soon, those numbers will go down as well. Masks do not help and are completely pointless and is likely to be more harmful than helpful to children. And again, this virus is not as deadly to school aged children as the seasonal flu and none of you wanted children wearing masks before. Masking children is not keeping them safe, masking children makes adults, who could be vaccinated if they want, feel better. It's wrong.

This is what a guy like this does, he tries to show facts like masks don’t work in Thailand but fails to tell you the country is only 7% fully vaccinated. He is a joke, and it’s not funny, it’s disgusting and criminal.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

This is what a guy like this does, he try’s to show facts like masks don’t work in Thailand but fails to tell you the country is only 7% fully vaccinated. He is a joke, and it’s not funny, it’s disgusting and criminal.

Nobody is talking about vaccines, we're talking about masks working. You're bringing vaccines into the debate to deter from the point that masks, demonstrably over and over, fail to protect anyone from this virus, especially children. You just cannot help yourself. Besides, who in here believes that vaccines keep people from getting the virus? Anyone? Anyone? This is a complete red herring.

But by the way, Vermont has the highest vaccination rate in the US. Vermont is currently reaching levels near their peak. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Masking doesn't help, nor does masking children do anything at all to help.

 

[MAD]

Nobody is talking about vaccines, we're talking about masks working. You're bringing vaccines into the debate to deter from the point that masks, demonstrably over and over, fail to protect anyone from this virus, especially children. You just cannot help yourself. Besides, who in here believes that vaccines keep people from getting the virus? Anyone? Anyone? This is a complete red herring.

But by the way, Vermont has the highest vaccination rate in the US. Vermont is currently reaching levels near their peak. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Masking doesn't help, nor does masking children do anything at all to help.

More misinformation, vaccines do keep you from getting the virus. While there are breakthrough infections, you still have a greater chance of not getting the virus with the vaccine. So please stop and stop generalizing.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

More misinformation, vaccines do keep you from getting the virus. While there are breakthrough infections, you still have a greater chance of not getting the virus with the vaccine. So please stop and stop generalizing.

Literally no one is arguing that vaccines keep people from getting the delta. Vaccines keep symptoms low, they do not prevent.

But regardless, way to completely ignore the entire point of my post to promote something completely unrelated to masking or not masking children. Good job.

Masks don’t work.

 

[MAD]

Literally no one is arguing that vaccines keep people from getting the delta. Vaccines keep symptoms low, they do not prevent.

But regardless, way to completely ignore the entire point of my post to promote something completely unrelated to masking or not masking children. Good job.

Masks don’t work.

Masks do work, and it slows the spread of COVID.

From the Mayo Clinic
Mayo Clinic Minute: Study shows masks can prevent COVID-19

 

[BenGrimm]

The mental health aspect. Do you have kids? I do, and I can tell you first hand about the anxiety and depression it’s caused. I’ve had to have my oldest kid get counseling because of this. Also, my kids had Covid with minor issues.

And active shooter drills aren’t causing mental health and anxiety issues?

My kids have been fine with masks the entire time. We got away from them for a few months and they gave an “Awe man” when I told them we are going back to them. Then they started wearing them again and don’t question it.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Masks do work, and it slows the spread of COVID.

From the Mayo Clinic
Mayo Clinic Minute: Study shows masks can prevent COVID-19

And yet…













On and on and on we could go. Why isn’t real world data supporting that?

 

[walkenvol]

1. Masks don't work. Pretending that they do is teaching our children to live by lies.











2. Masks can be psychologically damaging as they enforce the idea that other people are dangerous and that children should be afraid of them, and generally live in fear. It's terrible and psychologically damaging.

3. Masks hinder development of children in reading social cues because they cannot observe non verbal communication. They can't see the teacher annunciate words either.

4. There are health issues with masks. It's like we've just forgotten science over the last year. Go back to before the virus got political and listen to Fauci then. What does he say? "Masks have unintended consequences because people are constantly messing with them and touching their face." What are children going to be doing with their masks except messing with their face all day?





5. Masks also cause children to have difficulty breathing when they're wearing them for 8 hours a day, and they're coughing into those masks, and there's dust in that mask, they sweat into those masks. What about the effects on their immune system?

In every way it is wrong for children to wear masks. and again, this virus is not deadly for children. Around 300 school aged children in total have died from this virus. Over 4 million children have contracted the virus, a total of .008% have died. 480 kids died from the flu in the 2018-2019 flu season, that is more children than have died in a year and a half from covid. Did you mask for the flu? Further, I would be willing to bet my life savings that the vast, vast majority of those children who died from covid had extreme co-morbidities, or were of the fudged number variety who happened to have covid when they died. These children were not little Johnny running around the playground one day completely healthy, catches covid, then he dies. Those instances would be of the extreme rare variety. That isn't even happening to middle aged men at any decent rate, let alone healthy children.

Hospitalizations are terrible, but masks would not prevent them. Further, when the delta spike decreases, and it will very soon, those numbers will go down as well. Masks do not help and are completely pointless and is likely to be more harmful than helpful to children. And again, this virus is not as deadly to school aged children as the seasonal flu and none of you wanted children wearing masks before. Masking children is not keeping them safe, masking children makes adults, who could be vaccinated if they want, feel better. It's wrong.

I remain amazed at how you are able to view all the issues surrounding this pandemic in absolutes with what appears to be complete confidence. Odd that the scientists and medical community continue to learn, adjust, and improve their approach.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I remain amazed at how you are able to view all the issues surrounding this pandemic in absolutes with what appears to be complete confidence. Odd that the scientists and medical community continue to learn, adjust, and improve their approach.

Except they don’t. Masks don’t work, haven’t ever been shown to work, and they keep enforcing them. Lockdowns don’t work either, they do far more damage than they help, and yet “experts” continue to enforce them in some places. Vaccine isn’t stopping the delta, nor is it slowing the spread, and yet vaccine mandates are being enforced in places like Ny.

Experts have been wrong constantly and consistently. But some of you would wear a haz mat suit every day if they told you to.

There is no data that supports the idea that covid is deadly for children. More children died from the flu in the 2018-19 season. Masking kids makes no sense

 

[walkenvol]

Nobody is talking about vaccines, we're talking about masks working. You're bringing vaccines into the debate to deter from the point that masks, demonstrably over and over, fail to protect anyone from this virus, especially children. You just cannot help yourself. Besides, who in here believes that vaccines keep people from getting the virus? Anyone? Anyone? This is a complete red herring.

But by the way, Vermont has the highest vaccination rate in the US. Vermont is currently reaching levels near their peak. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Masking doesn't help, nor does masking children do anything at all to help.

I’ll go on record to say the cumulative data I’ve read over the past 6 months makes me believe the vaccines HELP prevent catching the virus and help lessen symptoms if contracted.

When the Mayo Clinic or the head of Baylor Medical School, or another trustworthy group of medical professionals publish something that passes a peer review stating otherwise then I’ll listen to an anonymous online fanatic claiming nothing works but natural immunity and the entire pandemic is not a big deal and is intentionally being overblown.

 

[walkenvol]

Except the don’t. Masks don’t work, haven’t ever shown to work, and they keep enforcing them. Lockdowns don’t work either, they do far more damage than they help, and yet “experts” continue to enforce them in some places. Vaccine isn’t stopping the delta, nor is it slowing the spread, and yet vaccine mandates are being enforced in places like Ny.

Experts have been wrong constantly and consistently. But some of you would wear a haz mat suit every day if they told you to.

There is no data that supports the idea that covid is deadly for children. More children died from the flu in the 2018-19 season. Masking kids makes no sense

If nothing else you are consistent in your absolute clarity on these issues.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I’ll go on record to say the cumulative data I’ve read over the past 6 months makes me believe the vaccines HELP prevent catching the virus and help lessen symptoms if contracted.

When the Mayo Clinic or the head of Baylor Medical School, or another trustworthy group of medical professionals publish something that passes a peer review stating otherwise then I’ll listen to an anonymous online fanatic claiming nothing works but natural immunity and the entire pandemic is not a big deal and is intentionally being overblown.

I’ve never denied that vaccines help decrease symptoms. But it is very clear it doesn’t stop the spread, and no one is denying that right now.

Your consistent ad homs show you have no arguments

 

[walkenvol]

I’ve never denied that vaccines help decrease symptoms. But it is very clear it doesn’t stop the spread, and no one is denying that right now.

Your consistent ad homs show you have no arguments

I’m through debating anything with you because you already know more than the folks who have dedicated their entire lives to study and research in these fields. Wish you’d bring this intellectual gift over to the stock thread and help the rest of us idiots make some money!

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I’m through debating anything with you because you already know more than the folks who have dedicated their entire lives to study and research in these fields. Wish you’d bring this intellectual gift over to the stock thread and help the rest of us idiots make some money!

I don’t know stocks, but I can read data. I don’t just blindly follow bureaucrats with something to gain. Data continues to show that masking hasn’t helped.

I’ve never argued against vaccine efficacy in lessening symptoms so that’s a straw man that you erected so you could feel like you scored a point. Congrats