NCAA agrees athletes can make money from their fame

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vettefool said:
This cou

this could turn into a cluster f*&$. Seems very confusing.
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Once one realizes that the NCAA has no say so it becomes less confusing. The individual schools could setup their own rules and it might be possible for conferences to setup some rules. In the meantime, generally speaking the rules are gone as far as compensation at the NCAA level. Of course, the rules as the school will probably have no impact if breached for the player to transfer out.
 
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What stops a local car dealer who supports the college from saying, “hey kid thank you for visiting, if you come here ive got a free car for you to drive while you’re here and $1000 bucks a week if you appear in my dealership once a month for autographs.”
 
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goooooovols said:
What stops a local car dealer who supports the college from saying, “hey kid thank you for visiting, if you come here ive got a free car for you to drive while you’re here and $1000 bucks a week if you appear in my dealership once a month for autographs.”
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At the NCAA level its not really their business, if individual schools or States have put into place some type of restriction (that could be an issue). Generally speaking, I would say nobody is going to care which is the purpose.
 
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Btw clown Sankey threw up his arms on the subject.



He thinks Congress is going to fix it.

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LSU-SIU said:
Btw clown Sankey threw up his arms on the subject.



He thinks Congress is going to fix it.

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It's interesting, to say the least. If the institutions of government that gave schools the ability to engineer college football as it has stood are now changing their enforcement of the rules, then perhaps there's something to that angle. The Supreme Court basically said "no more of this," but it's not as if the court had to provide any alternatives. And it's not the court's concern if their decision blows up the sport. I wonder how people will view that when schools are cutting 50% of their non-revenue generating athletic teams in five or ten years. The people who despise or hate college athletics will rejoice its implosion, of course; there's always plenty of those. But for the remainder, I wonder.
 
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Mose Phillip's Watch said:
It will be the death of college sports in my opinion
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It is going to morph into a jr. pro football league. It is going to take down all the other college sports as it eats up all the revenue to be competitive and pay the players. Men’s football and basketball are going to be the only survivors.
 
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Voltopia said:
It's interesting, to say the least. If the institutions of government that gave schools the ability to engineer college football as it has stood are now changing their enforcement of the rules, then perhaps there's something to that angle. The Supreme Court basically said "no more of this," but it's not as if the court had to provide any alternatives. And it's not the court's concern if their decision blows up the sport. I wonder how people will view that when schools are cutting 50% of their non-revenue generating athletic teams in five or ten years. The people who despise or hate college athletics will rejoice its implosion, of course; there's always plenty of those. But for the remainder, I wonder.
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Although it was very specific as to "educational benefits", more or less they said on a national level this was serious anti-trust issues. DOJ has previously sent a letter to the NCAA warning them not to pass new rules, so what did they do... pass new rules. :)

And it's not the court's concern if their decision blows up the sport.
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yup.

There maximum earnings potential was before July 1, 2021, there is no way their margins aren't squeezed here on out.
 
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LWSVOL said:
one has absolutely nothing to do with the other..
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Realistically, the NCAA has no ability to enforce restricting compensation rules. If the school wants (agrees) on its own to sanctions that's on them at this point, I have no idea why a school would really do that though.

There is a reason why many conferences were telling them not to pass new rules as well as DOJ. <----
 
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Ashevillevol said:
It is going to morph into a jr. pro football league. It is going to take down all the other college sports as it eats up all the revenue to be competitive and pay the players. Men’s football and basketball are going to be the only survivors.
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Schools aren't able to pay players/make them employees.

Even if they did - It literally takes 10% of staff salaries to pay kids a decent wage.

Take this "tHeReS nO MonEY tO pAy TheM" elsewhere as long as coaches are making millions a year....oh yeah..."amateur coaches".
 
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Hadn't thought about it but this will require a contract between the business and player. That contract could require the player to not transfer or defer payments in a way that discouraged transfers. Still massively disfavors some programs but UT could be a beneficiary.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Realistically, the NCAA has no ability to enforce restricting compensation rules. If the school wants (agrees) on its own to sanctions that's on them at this point, I have no idea why a school would really do that though.

There is a reason why many conferences were telling them not to pass new rules as well as DOJ. <----
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the NIL guidelines put out by the NCAA say that athletes must first follow state laws regarding NIL and then each schools policies regarding NIL. So its a free for all depending on each states law and each schools policies.
 
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LWSVOL said:
the NIL guidelines put out by the NCAA say that athletes must first follow state laws regarding NIL and then each schools policies regarding NIL. So its a free for all depending on each states law and each schools policies.
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Not enforceable, why do you think they have NIL rules? The old rules were unenforceable, see DOJ letter from January. Guidelines/rules involving compensation restrictions from the NCAA is about as enforceable as the old rules. Why do you think they passed new rules? Because the old rules were unenforceable i.e. its a show.

Without force you don't have anything. The passing of these stupid new rules is not going to do anything but piss off DOJ Anti-trust Division.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Not enforceable, why do you think they have NIL rules? The old rules were unenforceable, see DOJ letter from January.

Guidelines/rules involving compensation restrictions from the NCAA is about as enforceable as the old rules. Why do you think they passed new rules?
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state laws are not enforceable??
 
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LWSVOL said:
state laws are not enforceable??
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No, the NCAA rules on restricting compensation. The NCAA has no ability to restrict this stuff, they are already going to be served with many more mega lawsuits, maybe DOJ will get around to criminally indicting them. (roll the dice)

There simple isn't any rules, they are simply looking like idiots to anyone that understands basic law at this point.

I can pay a player to go to LSU and who is going to do anything about it? Not the NCAA, to me or the player. If I pay a player to go to a school without State NIL, who is going to do anything about it? Not the NCAA.

Who is going to enforce these state NILs, probably nobody.
 
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Imagine a Manning, Herschel, Tebow or Anthony Davis, That kind of player could earn more than the coach.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
No, the NCAA rules on restricting compensation. The NCAA has no ability to restrict this stuff, they are already going to be served with many more mega lawsuits, maybe DOJ will get around to criminally indicting them. (roll the dice)

There simple isn't any rules.

I can pay a player to go to LSU and who is going to do anything about it?
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Tennessee law regarding NIL

https://publications.tnsosfiles.com/acts/112/pub/pc0400.pdf

By Tennessee state law, the athlete has to report that to the institution. If the institution decides that is in conflict with their values they can turn the kid loose, or whatever they wish to do... I can't speak to Louisiana law.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Tennessee law regarding NIL

https://publications.tnsosfiles.com/acts/112/pub/pc0400.pdf

By Tennessee state law, the athlete has to report that to the institution. If the institution decides that is in conflict with their values they can turn the kid loose, or whatever they wish to do... I can't speak to Louisiana law.
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Okay, who is going to enforce that?

I pay player X to attend UT, now what? He doesn't disclose his out of state agreement, now what?

What happens if UT suspects the player was paid to come to the school but does nothing? Nothing will happen.

(this is also beside the point if these laws are regulatory taking, your state could be on the hook for lost income... eventually I would not be surprised if players start suing the state.. topic for another time)
 
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Okay, so the Knox county DA is going to get this information from some unknown source. Exactly what kind of penalties are there in the law? There really isn't any. Also, you can setup the contracts out of state beyond the jurisdiction of the State. I guess in theory they could get an injunction but everyone and their mother in Tennessee land is going to be very pissed off at that DA, of course, the contract can be setup out of state.

Tennessee isn't going to want to know about any of this.

(like I said there are other legal issues with these laws as well, topic for another time)

You know how long the Knox Co. DA is going to spend working on this, about 10 seconds. In the meantime, the player is still eligible to play at Tennessee even if he banked $1 billion to sign for Tennessee.

There literally is no penalty, unless really the school wanted to kick the player off the team. Why would they do that? ;)
 
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