Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Kingston Vol]

How can that be I thought Fulmer loved the university? Why would he take money from something he loves and left in shambles? He’s our savior that we should cherish for year’s…

I love the university too. If they terminated my contract, I would want the money we agreed upon and that they owe me.

 

[volbeast33]

Lol I don’t get paid to be as awful as he was, but apparently our fans think we should be okay that a former great robbed the university of a lot money

Your issue is with the people above him that pays our salaries and makes those decision..... I was onboard with the Pruitt hire.... who did you want as coach?

 

[itsme]

Addiction isn’t the problem, it’s the attempt to solve/medicate/numb the problem

Have you ever done or heard of the Authentic Manhood: 33 men's small group series? We use this in our church. It delves deep into why we do the things we do, recognize our issues and then fix our issues through Christ. We really find the program to be extremely helpful in growing our men at church. Some of the videos can be a little corny but the information and subsequent discussion is phenomenal.

 

[JacketVol]

Holy cow, after today’s addition I honestly think we could go 9-3.

Think about it. We have a lot of blue chips but they’ve never been developed. We have highly rated QBs who haven’t been coached by a QB whisperer in Coach Hype. We have a motha effin great DL coach when we didn’t even have one last year.

Coach Hype ain’t come here for no year Zero. He’s here to make his mark right now, year 1 is gonna be fun folks!

depth is a hugh concern

 

[Ryno14]

Need this shirt

 

[Newman]

@HoleInTheRoof

 

[TrippieRedd]

Your issue is with the people above him that pays our salaries and makes those decision..... I was onboard with the Pruitt hire.... who did you want as coach?

A Pube. Would have been way better

 

[Newman]

Lol

 

[volbeast33]

A Pube. Would have been way better

The last options I remember was Doeren....the pirate.....Mel tucker.... not sure if any of them is as good as a pube.

 

[JacketVol]

Well, Fulmer started the process and was moving it forward quickly. Despite internal headwinds.

I don't get the indiscriminate Fulmer-bashing. Give him credit for what he did right; hold him accountable for what he did wrong. That would apply to others, as well.

Edit: Volbeast'd. I concur.

One thing about Phil. He wants to win.

 

[Volbucky]

Lol

Lol that’s sooo embarrassing

 

[UTMVol76]

My goal is to land a lucrative role I suck at and get seven figures to leave because someone didn’t vet me properly. I’m not saying this because of anything posted in the last two pages, but because I truly feel it’s one of the craziest and ridiculous things that occurs in our world today.

 

[VolGee4]

People do not get paid when they retire, only when fired

Bingo. Phil Fulmer was terminated as AD, regardless of what was stated.

 

[VolGee4]

The only thing Fulmer did wrong is stick with Pruitt after a three win year.

But to be honest with you, I would rather be riding with Pruitt and Fulmer through this season, with no sanctions because we didn't turn ourselves in, than Heupel plus sanctions for the next three years.

If Pruitt were bad this year (2021), Fulmer would have moved on and I think we're more likely to hire a big named coach with no sanctions.

Obviously these decisions are not made in a vacuum.

No kidding, they aren't. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I understood if Pruitt was given another year, with the acknowledgement that the 2021 season could have been bad financially. I was hoping that people were anxious to get back to Neyland after Covid, regardless of the product.

 

[butchna]

The only thing Fulmer did wrong is stick with Pruitt after a three win year.

But to be honest with you, I would rather be riding with Pruitt and Fulmer through this season, with no sanctions because we didn't turn ourselves in, than Heupel plus sanctions for the next three years.

If Pruitt were bad this year (2021), Fulmer would have moved on and I think we're more likely to hire a big named coach with no sanctions.

Obviously these decisions are not made in a vacuum.

We were going nowhere fast...in reverse. Minor sanctions > purgatory.

 

[VolByLaw]

All those buyouts people don't think we pay... guess what? UT handles it behind the scenes and keeps it quiet with NDAs. It's all posturing. First comes a call from a very good attorney, then a demand letter, then they negotiate.

UT has been paying off fired, outraged people for a decade. Hart left a lot of them in his wake. The trend continues.

Did we pay Schiano anything?

 

[NMVol]

10-2, 2nd in the East.

 

[Rishvol]

Need this shirt

Who's the poster that keeps collecting coach shirts?

 

[VolGee4]

Did we pay Schiano anything?

Don't think so.

 

[SweetasSoda]

@HoleInTheRoof

Lots of offers

 

[VolByLaw]

Don't think so.

I know publically we didn't, but it wouldn't shock me if something was done behind closed doors.

 

[SweetasSoda]

 

[VolGee4]

I know publically we didn't, but it wouldn't shock me if something was done behind closed doors.

As a public institution, that can be found out. I would guess they hung their hat on Davenport and the CFO not signing the MOU. Additionally, any lawsuit by Schiano would have brought everything up again through discovery. My guess is he was advised to let it die, wait it out, and find another job...which we know he did. It worked out.

 

[butchna]

You pay people when you fire them in this line of work. That's just the way it is. Pruitt is very likely to get some settlement money if he keeps fighting it.

Fulmer was pushed out because Plowman wanted to hire an AD to hire a football coach. He wasn't necessarily fired because he was bad at the job.

Interestingly enough, it sounds like Plowman isn't totally safe right now either.

Won’t get a dime. Textbook for cause and the decision was based on legal advice from a pretty stout firm who don’t have to pretend they know their stuff on a message board.

He was bad at the job.

Boyd’s in her corner...she’s safe.

 

[butchna]

I don't *know* that we would have hired a big name, I just think it would have been more likely had we not turned ourselves in to the NCAA.

I'm just not high on Josh Heupel. If you gave me a do-over, I would take it. But that doesn't mean I'm rooting against him. I hope to be proven wrong.

No you don’t. When you’re proven wrong, you go radio silent.