Arizona Election Audit

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BowlBrother85 said:
There is no argument to be made, white trash. The Trump legal team never argued that fraud had occurred, except on Fox News. When they were given the opportunity to call witnesses and provide new evidence before Judge Bibas, they couldn't do it... and that is what you initially asked for.

Now, go back to fixing your chitlins in whichever trailer park you reside...
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Called out and turns into a hateful old crone.
 
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IF the election was somehow rigged, and that's a big IF, the government would never admit it, or let that info see the light of day. This union is already strained. No way they could allow that to ever come out.
 
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KB5252 said:
IF the election was somehow rigged, and that's a big IF, the government would never admit it, or let that info see the light of day. This union is already strained. No way they could allow that to ever come out.
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When you say "the government would never admit it", which people are you specifically referring to? Donald Trump was obviously the president at the time, and he was trying like hell to uncover fraud and "let that info see the light of day". Did you listen to his phone call with Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger? Trump was pleading with Raffensperger to "just find" the number of votes needed to flip the state of Georgia to his side.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
"Called out"... LOL. How am I wrong? The Trump legal team never even argued fraud in court... and when they were given a chance to provide new evidence and call new witnesses to support whatever argument they were trying to make in court, they declined to do so.

And perhaps you missed the part of his post that I was replying to, where he called me an "ignorant mother fuker"? LOL. Get real. Don't wanna take it? Don't dish it out.
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Calling someone ignorant != using wealth, race, and class level as an insult.

Shameful. Intolerant. Rude. And pathetic. Also unfortunately par for the course.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
When you say "the government would never admit it", which people are you specifically referring to? Donald Trump was obviously the president at the time, and he was trying like hell to uncover fraud and "let that info see the light of day". Did you listen to his phone call with Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger? Trump was pleading with Raffensperger to "just find" the number of votes needed to flip the state of Georgia to his side.
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The president is briefed, he only knows what he's told.

Many years ago a president warned us about the military industrial complex. Now there are more factions both domestic and international competing for power and resources.

If fraud happened "they" perpetuated it, and it would never be allowed out for our consumption. Unless it served some greater purpose for them.

I'm not a Trump follower or a Q guy but I think it within the realm of possibility that there are factions pulling strings.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because of who has been hired to conduct this latest "audit". The Republicans in the Arizona state legislature hired a Florida company called "Cyber Ninjas Inc.". The Chief Executive of this firm is a man named Doug Logan, who has actively promoted conspiracy theories about election fraud on multiple platforms - and in doing so, revealed his own personal agenda regarding this audit. He has skin in the game, and is anything but objective.
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But you were fine with the live hiring democratic poster boy Meuller to head the Russia investigation. Stop with your faux outrage BS. Meuller had an agenda and so did your party for 4 years. But now you wanna scream foul. Typical.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Well, it wasn't just "ignorant". It was "ignorant mother fuker"... which obviously violates the rules of this forum regarding name-calling and the intentional misspelling of profane words as a means of dodging the censor block. Granted, I returned fire, but you are suggesting one is worse than the other, when they are actually both equally very childish.
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For caring so much about equality, that goes out the window when "returning fire".

Shameful.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
But you were fine with the live hiring democratic poster boy Meuller to head the Russia investigation. Stop with your faux outrage BS. Meuller had an agenda and so did your party for 4 years. But now you wanna scream foul. Typical.
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You are trying to change the subject...

The owner of the company (Cyber Ninjas Inc.) conducting this audit, Doug Logan, posted allegations of voter fraud on the website of an attorney for the 2020 Trump Campaign, Sidney Powell, back in December. Powell is currently being sued for those same allegations. Logan has also referred to the 2020 Presidential Election as being "rigged".

Now, let me ask you two questions here:

1) Do you see a conflict of interest in having his company conducting this audit?

2) Are Republican members of the Arizona State Legislature working in good faith to find the truth (even it's bad for their side?) or did they hand-pick Cyber Ninjas Inc. for this audit, because they wanted to guarantee that the audit would report their desired conclusion?

And Mueller is a Republican, but you know that already.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is no argument to be made, white trash. The Trump legal team never argued that fraud had occurred, except on Fox News. When they were given the opportunity to call witnesses and provide new evidence before Judge Bibas, they couldn't do it... and that is what you initially asked for.

Now, go back to fixing your chitlins in whichever trailer park you reside...
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Whatever racist.
 
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VolinWayne said:
For those of you arguing about all fraud cases being lost, here is a comprehensive list of each case and their status. You won't hear this from the media

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The brown were dismissed cases, a lot. More than all the others combined.

Green were successful. Hard to read but 4. Looks like one says extended poll hours.

Blue were voluntary withdraws, also 4.

And then 4 red, whatever those are.

What do you think this chart is proving?
 
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volfanhill said:
Pro-Trump lawyer says ‘no reasonable person’ would believe her election lies


All you need to know when it comes this or any Powell claim
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And it was Doug Logan, owner of Cyber Ninjas Inc., who was authoring many of those claims on her website, which she later repeated in press conferences and on cable news talk shows. They were basically Logan's claims, that Powell was disseminating. And now Logan is in charge of this audit in Arizona... Yeah. That is audit is legit. No conflict of interest to be found here. Move along.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
And it was Doug Logan, owner of Cyber Ninjas Inc., who was authoring many of those claims on her website, which she later repeated in press conferences and on cable news talk shows. They were basically Logan's claims, that Powell was disseminating. And now Logan is in charge of this audit in Arizona... Yeah. That is audit is legit. No conflict of interest to be found here. Move along.
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This audit is absurd. And anyone with any level of interest in truth knows it. All you have to do is look at how the audit would be monitored.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are trying to change the subject...

The owner of the company (Cyber Ninjas Inc.) conducting this audit, Doug Logan, posted allegations of voter fraud on the website of an attorney for the 2020 Trump Campaign, Sidney Powell, back in December. Powell is currently being sued for those same allegations. Logan has also referred to the 2020 Presidential Election as being "rigged".

Now, let me ask you two questions here:

1) Do you see a conflict of interest in having his company conducting this audit?

2) Are Republican members of the Arizona State Legislature working in good faith to find the truth (even it's bad for their side?) or did they hand-pick Cyber Ninjas Inc. for this audit, because they wanted to guarantee that the audit would report their desired conclusion?

And Mueller is a Republican, but you know that already.
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Who cares? Let it play out. Since you are 100% confident there isn’t anything fraudulent then what’s the problem?
 
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volinbham said:
Yes they funded internally and yes they were given a liability shield which means their investment wouldn't come back to bite them and yes they were guaranteed a minimum $2 billion order. So while they may not say the Trump administration deserves credit they certainly were given major incentives to go full speed ahead. I'm sure they recognize the role those decisions impacted their deployment of resources. Same for Moderna.
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With those assurances, Pfizer was free to set up production and have batches of vaccine ready to ship while testing was being conducted. Trump enabled them to work their processes in parallel rather than in serial fashion. If testing had been a failure, Pfizer would not have suffered a loss - that's about as good an investment as you can get - better than upfront money actually. Politicians don't think this way, but outsiders with business and negotiating experience do.
 
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volfanhill said:
This audit is absurd. And anyone with any level of interest in truth knows it. All you have to do is look at how the audit would be monitored.
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So was the Russia investigation. But who cares? Nothing will be done even if there was something found. The US government is the textbook definition of absurd.
 
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volfanhill said:
This audit is absurd. And anyone with any level of interest in truth knows it. All you have to do is look at how the audit would be monitored.
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Cyber Ninjas Inc. was hand-picked as the firm to conduct the audit, because the Republicans in the Arizona State Legislature believe that Doug Logan will see to it that they report the desired result of the Republican Party. Cyber Ninjas Inc. will make a big announcement that Trump actually won Arizona... and Fox News will run with the story, without ever acknowledging the link between Doug Logan and Sidney Powell and the Trump Campaign.
 
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