Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[VolGee4]

You foresee no issues with the roster because you are projecting that every player on the team, many of which have not seen much playing time at all, pans out to be exactly what you hoped they would be. It never works out that way. This roster has holes.

It may have holes, but I think it has enough talent to beat BG, cupcake, cupcake, Vandy, USC, and probably even UK and Pitt. Need some bodies at LB and need the lines to just be above average.

 

[HankHill]

I don't agree with your first premise here. Next year on the DL, sure. But this year? I don't see a lot of holes except at Linebacker. And even then, it's more depth than anything. There's talent there they just need development. Are we elite? No, but we don't have holes all over our roster this year

We have enough players on DL that we can be multiple and productive. Do we have a Barnett right now? Probably not but we also don’t have a bunch of stiff backs either.

I like banks more than most but that’s really it at LB. i hated to lose Beasley Bc he was really athletic. We need 3 or 4 transfers there

 

[m1al]

Basically no practice (Spring or Fall). A few Sunday night practices. A pruitt micromanaged QB coach in weinke, a horrible offensive scheme devised by pruitt to minimize turnovers (actually maximized), an OL coach that seemed to perfect the minimalist protection scheme, and the list could go on endlessly for how horrible his first year of college football was...

Now he has a legitimate group of coaches, but with an offensive scheme that’s in a completely different direction than the miserably complex ineffective scheme from last year.

I think that unfortunately a portal QB could be a replacement for Salter if he bolts rather than anything else. I hope that Salter toughs it out and stays, but man up isn’t a way to describe today’s youth. When the going gets tough, quit immediately and transfer is their mantra.

I am withholding all judgment until the first snap this Fall.

Headed to the portal....

 

[butchna]

let’s be real hole, you haven’t watched a game in at least 5 years. Kesling can’t teach you everything.

I’ll show you the coaches tapes from the Pruitt era tho if you want?

You do this for a living, so I obviously put stock in your observations. Disagree a lot, but when you say you got it from looking at film I don’t go all D4H.

 

[NMVol]

We have enough players on DL that we can be multiple and productive. Do we have a Barnett right now? Probably not but we also don’t have a bunch of stiff backs either.

I like banks more than most but that’s really it at LB. i hated to lose Beasley Bc he was really athletic. We need 3 or 4 transfers there

The thing is with regard to the trenches experience and maturity really do count for something beyond talent and I think this bodes well for the D-Line. The Dan Williams example stands out in my mind. His production in terms of tackles was up significantly in his 2009 senior year. I just remember being impressed with the zeal, aggression and techniques he played with a senior. His career is the arc of development one would hope to see with all four year players on the lines.

 

[butchna]

@Dobbs 4 Heisman finna get all kinds of angry.

He developed “modules” for his draft board. I never understood what the hell that ever meant but it sounded professional...even if it was simply subscribing to different YouTube highlights.

 

[Playdo]

Some people don't think highly of Milton, but UT didn't "settle." CJH watched Milton play and recruited him in HS and went after him aggressively as a transfer. The coaches got exactly who they wanted to run the offense they want to run.

UT challenged CJH to turn this thing around and he thinks this is the path. The coaches want to maximize our talent and stretch the field utilizing the speed of our WRs, and they think Milton has the skillset to do that. If one of our current QBs can beat him out, all the better.

I’m sorry, I am unfamiliar with this concept.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

We’re bad at corner and, most importantly, don’t have a QB.

If we find a QB then we can win some games this year. I think we’re pretty damn good at WR and RB and have a solid oline

We are not bad at corner. We have lots of talent and experience at corner. We have depth there too. We also have 3 quality QB options with experience. We don't have Joe Burrow on the roster, but we have 3 capable QB's in Bailey, Hooker, and Milton. If the worst we have is Hooker with tons of experience then we're okay. Again, I'm not arguing that we are elite, but that isn't a hole as you put it. If you want to see a roster with holes in it, go check out your beloved gamecocks

 

[VolByLaw]

On the VQ podcast they said the following about QBs:

- 8 consecutive 3-and-outs in the last scrimmage / QBs looked bad
- They were taking a QB regardless / they wanted Joe Milton
- Maurer is the most talented QB but is too inconsistent and emotional
- Bailey is more mature emotionally

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

4-5

Barring a disaster year like Pruitt just had in year 3, this is the correct answer. We aren't competing for a championship anytime soon, but we should be winning 7-9 games a year and then in year 4-5 he's got his entire roster in place, we should take a step up. That's the time to judge him.

 

[LA Vol]

I’m sorry, I am unfamiliar with this concept.

I should clarify-- we want to throw long balls to players in orange. Throwing to the other team was not an effective offensive strategy for us last year, though Mark Stoops endorsed it wholeheartedly and will be sad to see us rethink the concept.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

We have enough players on DL that we can be multiple and productive. Do we have a Barnett right now? Probably not but we also don’t have a bunch of stiff backs either.

I like banks more than most but that’s really it at LB. i hated to lose Beasley Bc he was really athletic. We need 3 or 4 transfers there

Those guys haven't been coached since we lost Sherrer. Morven Joseph is very talented and athletic. Plus Banks as you said, moving Harrison there. We won't be as bad as we were last year because, if nothing else, we actually have a real coach for that position. Pick up someone in the transfer portal and we'll be fine there.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

How are we bad at corner?

Bryce is the only one leaving in the secondary.


Highlighted all the guys who have played for us there too. That's a pretty good bunch and a few more still to arrive from latest class. I also think Fields could emerge, feel like Pruitt buried him cause of his size but I don't think current staff will care if he's not 6'

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I should clarify-- we want to throw long balls to players in orange. Throwing to the other team was not an effective offensive strategy for us last year, though Mark Stoops endorsed it wholeheartedly and will be sad to see us rethink the concept.

I watched those Milton highlights. Dude rolls out to his left, flips his hips, throws off of one foot effortlessly to the end zone. That dude's arm talent is ridiculous

Edit. Forgot to mention the throw was from the 50

 

[mikemist]

Those guys haven't been coached since we lost Sherrer. Morven Joseph is very talented and athletic. Plus Banks as you said, moving Harrison there. We won't be as bad as we were last year because, if nothing else, we actually have a real coach for that position. Pick up someone in the transfer portal and we'll be fine there.

Think it's interesting that Penn St would only have 8-9 scholarship linebackers on the roster under Banks/Pry. Depending on who transfers after the spring, getting 1 LB transfer should be sufficient.

 

[SpringBokVol]

How are we bad at corner?

Bryce is the only one leaving in the secondary.
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Highlighted all the guys who have played for us there too. That's a pretty good bunch and a few more still to arrive from latest class. I also think Fields could emerge, feel like Pruitt buried him cause of his size but I don't think current staff will care if he's not 6'

The biggest issue is at LB.
Then DL
Then DB

We might have a surprise or two at DL, but you can't count on it.

On offense:

Biggest issue is at QB
Then TE
Then OL, RB and WR all tied. WR and RB have a ton of potential and upside.

 

[Playdo]

I should clarify-- we want to throw long balls to players in orange. Throwing to the other team was not an effective offensive strategy for us last year, though Mark Stoops endorsed it wholeheartedly and will be sad to see us rethink the concept.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

How are we bad at corner?

Bryce is the only one leaving in the secondary.
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Highlighted all the guys who have played for us there too. That's a pretty good bunch and a few more still to arrive from latest class. I also think Fields could emerge, feel like Pruitt buried him cause of his size but I don't think current staff will care if he's not 6'

We aren't bad at corner. Again, we don't have a first round draft pick out there. but AT is going to be very good this year. Reports are that he's really taking to coaching from this staff better than from Pruitt and is set to have a truly breakout year. If you remember, the first few games of last year he was our best player on defense. George and Burrell have tons of experience and have played just fine. you've got sophomores who got some experience last year in Slaughter and McDonald, the latter the staff is really high on. Again, I wish we still had Bryce and Key Lawrence, but this isn't a hole on the roster. The only "hole" is at Linebacker, and even that looks worse on paper than it is. Banks is going to be fine, and if you add a guy in the portal with experience, the hole is filled in. there just isn't a ton of experience at that position right now outside of Banks. But there is talent. Banks, Joseph, Harrison, Willis, French (and I feel like I'm forgetting someone) are all 4 star players. AP also said that the staff is really high on Pac Garland

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

The biggest issue is at LB.
Then DL
Then DB

We might have a surprise or two at DL, but you can't count on it.

On offense:

Biggest issue is at QB
Then TE
Then OL, RB and WR all tied. WR and RB have a ton of potential and upside.

Disagree about DL. We don't have a Derek Brown, but we have loads of experience there. There's also some talent that is young in a guy like Big O for example. Helps that they have the best DL coach in America coaching them to. Again, we don't have a first round draft pick. But they have lots of experience and you can win a lot with that. Baron, B. Young, and Eason are all guys that are being talked about right now also. Swain said yesterday that Young is a dude.

QB is the biggest issue on the team. Just have a safe option if nothing else. Hooker isn't going to put the team on his back and win games, but he isn't going to lose you games either. If he's our worst option, we're okay. not elite, not gonna win 10 games, but we have enough to win 6-8. We're still more talented than 9 of the 12 teams we're playing this year.

 

[scvolfan7]

We are not bad at corner. We have lots of talent and experience at corner. We have depth there too. We also have 3 quality QB options with experience. We don't have Joe Burrow on the roster, but we have 3 capable QB's in Bailey, Hooker, and Milton. If the worst we have is Hooker with tons of experience then we're okay. Again, I'm not arguing that we are elite, but that isn't a hole as you put it. If you want to see a roster with holes in it, go check out your beloved gamecocks

Lol we’re still on the SC thing?

We’re definitely bad at corner. AT is solid but Burrell and George don’t give me a lot of confidence. Hopefully they’ll get better in practice going against our good WRs

 

[scvolfan7]

How are we bad at corner?

Bryce is the only one leaving in the secondary.
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Highlighted all the guys who have played for us there too. That's a pretty good bunch and a few more still to arrive from latest class. I also think Fields could emerge, feel like Pruitt buried him cause of his size but I don't think current staff will care if he's not 6'

4 of the people you have highlighted are S/nickel

 

[Catbone]

Milton has been on campus for weeks. He was always coming. I know you want to push your schtick, but no

Yeah well I didn't know he's been on campus for weeks. That's news to me

 

[MoCo_Vol]

The biggest issue is at LB.
Then DL
Then DB

We might have a surprise or two at DL, but you can't count on it.

On offense:

Biggest issue is at QB
Then TE
Then OL, RB and WR all tied. WR and RB have a ton of potential and upside.

I'll be honest, right now... to me the best unit on the entire team is the DL. Not even close too.


Size, Talent, Experience, and arguably the best positional group coach on the entire staff. Plenty of 4 and 5 star talent with a good mix of skills.

Not to mention Evans still isn't on campus.

 

[Orange Studs]

Some people don't think highly of Milton, but UT didn't "settle." CJH watched Milton play and recruited him in HS and went after him aggressively as a transfer. The coaches got exactly who they wanted to run the offense they want to run.

UT challenged CJH to turn this thing around and he thinks this is the path. The coaches want to maximize our talent and stretch the field utilizing the speed of our WRs, and they think Milton has the skillset to do that. If one of our current QBs can beat him out, all the better.

Sounds great but as usual we will see. For some like me its just hard to believe anymore. Milton can run no doubt and yes he has a strong arm how I wish that was all there was to it. Strong arms doesn't mean a thing if he can't learn touch as well. I hope Hype proves me wrong. I need to be proven wrong. I see just see more raw in Milton than I do some of our QB's.

 

[Vol423]

Reports are that he's really taking to coaching from this staff better than from Pruitt and is set to have a truly breakout year.

Was this copied and pasted from a previous post when the last head coach arrived, or was it the coach before that, or the coach before that? The same things are said every time. I don't give a damn about reports. Only game day results matter, and they've been atrocious for a long time despite all the glowing reports from practice.