Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Or he feels lost... no need to judge someone who is going through a lot. Some people need positive influence and others around to help make good decisions.

You have the responsibility to make the decision to look for those with positive influences like maybe the hospital chaplain or family or UT counseling services instead of tagging along with losers who break in into an drug dealers room, assault the person living there and stealing illegal drugs. (If all this is true) Sorry but Salter does not get a pass. The Qb’s are supposed to be the leaders of the team, not outlaws and thugs. Sorry guys, but for the ones believing Salter is our future Qb , it appears
You have picked a loser. Now he is complaining about nine of the coaches wishing him a happy birthday. What a prima Donna. If I was a coach I would be close to taking the schilling away from him. Cut your losses ASAP when you have known losers on the team.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Duke beat UNLV in the Final Four in 1991. They put up the graphic last night, and only two teams had been undefeated and lost in the final game. Indiana State was the last one in 1979.

That is wrong and I looked it up last night. UNLV was undefeated when they lost to Duke in 91.

 

[butchna]

That is wrong and I looked it up last night. UNLV was undefeated when they lost to Duke in 91.

Yes...but that wasn’t the CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. Duke beat Kansas in that game.

 

[MarcoVol]

You have the responsibility to make the decision to look for those with positive influences like maybe the hospital chaplain or family or UT counseling services instead of tagging along with losers who break in into an drug dealers room, assault the person living there and stealing illegal drugs. (If all this is true) Sorry but Salter does not get a pass. The Qb’s are supposed to be the leaders of the team, not outlaws and thugs. Sorry guys, but for the ones believing Salter is our future Qb , it appears
You have picked a loser. Now he is complaining about nine of the coaches wishing him a happy birthday. What a prima Donna. If I was a coach I would be close to taking the schilling away from him. Cut your losses ASAP when you have known losers on the team.

Such a douchey way to look at life.

Kid made a mistake - “he must be a thug, let’s toss him to the curb.”

I hope to hell you don’t work with young adults in any way, especially ones who may be in need of guidance.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Such a douchey way to look at life.

Kid made a mistake - “he must be a thug, let’s toss him to the curb.”

I hope to hell you don’t work with young adults in any way, especially ones who may be in need of guidance.

There is a big slide in responsible behavior with the younger generation going back a decade or two. These kids need to be raised and be given tough love when they make mistakes. You don’t pander to their egos. That’s how you really provide the opportunity for youngsters to become responsible adults.

 

[Orange Studs]

I sent an email-- the team's already on it. They're putting together a package and will try to get him on campus-- maybe for the O&W game, depending on COVID. If not, then in the fall. UT usually does a good job on stuff like this.

I miss the conversation on this. What is this in reference to? Would love to hear about it please.

 

[UTMVol76]

I don't follow much Knoxville media. Some of them do seem to have an ax to grind. I can't remember when it started-- at the end of the Dooley debacle? With Butch? Josh Dobbs and Trey Smith have been the only UT players they reported much about outside football.

It was definitely going on during the Dooley years. I wasn't following Knoxville media during the Fulmer firing, what was the general media consensus leading up to and following his firing?

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

I don’t discard humans, but he needs serious therapy, because as such as this is, it leads to darker places if not addressed

Right, many serial killers start by harming innocent animals...they need to get him so help

 

[volbeast33]

You have the responsibility to make the decision to look for those with positive influences like maybe the hospital chaplain or family or UT counseling services instead of tagging along with losers who break in into an drug dealers room, assault the person living there and stealing illegal drugs. (If all this is true) Sorry but Salter does not get a pass. The Qb’s are supposed to be the leaders of the team, not outlaws and thugs. Sorry guys, but for the ones believing Salter is our future Qb , it appears
You have picked a loser. Now he is complaining about nine of the coaches wishing him a happy birthday. What a prima Donna. If I was a coach I would be close to taking the schilling away from him. Cut your losses ASAP when you have known losers on the team.

Good grief..... were you ever a teenager? UT counseling services or my closest teammates on the team.

 

[UTMVol76]

Such a douchey way to look at life.

Kid made a mistake - “he must be a thug, let’s toss him to the curb.”

I hope to hell you don’t work with young adults in any way, especially ones who may be in need of guidance.

I'd say there's a little middle ground to this situation. On one hand I'd never say throw a kid to the curb unless he's exhausted all avenues. These coaches are the extension of these kids parents when they come to school and it's their role to help them grow into manhood. On the other hand, there are red flags about this young mans maturity that must be addressed, so I certainly wouldn't go with the 'he's just a kid' thing. The most important attribute for a QB is quick decision making followed closely by leadership and Salter appears to have a gap there he needs to close quickly. For no, we have to trust that the coaches are having those closed door conversations with him. The rest is on him.

 

[volinbama256]

When I see where this team is at LB, and think about Crouch and Henry completely abandoning their teammates, I don’t have nice feelings

Yeah I agree... both knew full and well the bad position/ situation they would be leaving the team in... ---- In before the snowflakes- "well they have to do what's best for themselves" because this generation has turned into a selfish me, me, what about me, well this sucks so I'm out, ehh that's not what I signed up for and could be a challenge and so I'm leaving... Adversity builds character and prepares you for real life... you don't pack up and run at the first sign of things getting hard or not going according to plan... Guess I'm too old for this generation's thinking...

 

[Kingston Vol]

Y'all are trying to kick Salter off the team?

 

[VolGee4]

The absolute worst - and not just with UT stuff. They spend minimal time on local events, people and stories that are uplifting. So much good stuff going on around the area and they just ignore it for a news report on a Facebook post somebody made in Michigan. Or they do the Chuckles hour spent talking about and amongst themselves and how cute they they think they are. Disgusting. I quit KNS years ago. I quit Sports Animal. I am quitting local TV news now. They are just a pointless waste of time. What I want or need to know I get from web sources.

Unfortunately, news reporting these days is based on clicks or viewership, and they believe that the feel-good stories don't drive as many clicks as the negative ones. I have heard a national sports writer talk about how his bosses want him to write things that generate more eyes and responses.

 

[engineerVOL]

I miss the conversation on this. What is this in reference to? Would love to hear about it please.

He reponsded to a post about an autistic kid in a Georgia school, teacher reaching out to get the kid some love from vol nation.

Come on Studs. It was right there. In the post. You responded to.

 

[MarcoVol]

I'd say there's a little middle ground to this situation. On one hand I'd never say throw a kid to the curb unless he's exhausted all avenues. These coaches are the extension of these kids parents when they come to school and it's their role to help them grow into manhood. On the other hand, there are red flags about this young mans maturity that must be addressed, so I certainly wouldn't go with the 'he's just a kid' thing. The most important attribute for a QB is quick decision making followed closely by leadership and Salter appears to have a gap there he needs to close quickly. For no, we have to trust that the coaches are having those closed door conversations with him. The rest is on him.

There have been countless immature QBs before him. Tyler Bray was about as immature as they come throughout his entire time at UT and the kid was pretty successful.

Salter true Fr. He’s not gonna be expected to be as poised, on or off the field, as a guy who’s been in the program for a few years.

 

[VolGee4]

That is wrong and I looked it up last night. UNLV was undefeated when they lost to Duke in 91.

But not in the championship game...Duke beat UNLV in the national SEMIFINAL game.

 

[MarcoVol]

Unfortunately, news reporting these days is based on clicks or viewership, and they believe that the feel-good stories don't drive as many clicks as the negative ones. I have heard a national sports writer talk about how his bosses want him to write things that generate more eyes and responses.

Clicks/views = money.

And they have data that shows which type of stories generate the most clicks/views.

If you want something to blame, like most things, it’s the greed that exists in our world where everyone is chasing the mighty dollar.

Usually pretty easy to draw a line from the issue at hand to the (potential) money involved.

 

[Smokey X]

It was definitely going on during the Dooley years. I wasn't following Knoxville media during the Fulmer firing, what was the general media consensus leading up to and following his firing?

The KNS, specifically Adams, trashed Fulmer and the vols regularly when CPF was still CPF.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I'd say there's a little middle ground to this situation. On one hand I'd never say throw a kid to the curb unless he's exhausted all avenues. These coaches are the extension of these kids parents when they come to school and it's their role to help them grow into manhood. On the other hand, there are red flags about this young mans maturity that must be addressed, so I certainly wouldn't go with the 'he's just a kid' thing. The most important attribute for a QB is quick decision making followed closely by leadership and Salter appears to have a gap there he needs to close quickly. For no, we have to trust that the coaches are having those closed door conversations with him. The rest is on him.

I side with you in this debate between Abingdon and Marco..

I was about to post something similiar before I got to your post..you said it very well, and I agree with you 100%, so no need to add my two cents.

 

[UpstateVol613]

 

[VolGee4]

Clicks/views = money.

And they have data that shows which type of stories generate the most clicks/views.

If you want something to blame, like most things, it’s the greed that exists in our world where everyone is chasing the mighty dollar.

Usually pretty easy to draw a line from the issue at hand to the (potential) money involved.

Yea, but journalism has morphed into a blurred line between "true reporting" to creating the story. Many opinion pieces are being written to rile up the masses to generate those clicks. Not enough research and analysis being done. In addition, I click on too many articles that are written about a social media post that is made by someone else.

I wasn't really blaming anyone, but a news outlet can make choices about it's stories.

 

[rjd970]

Brutal

 

[Leeleesteeth]

“Yesterday, I got all the way home and had to go back to the grocery store. I realized I’d only payed for 6 Sprites.
I picked 7-UP...................[/QUOTE
Still praying for you.

 

[engineerVOL]

I'd say there's a little middle ground to this situation. On one hand I'd never say throw a kid to the curb unless he's exhausted all avenues. These coaches are the extension of these kids parents when they come to school and it's their role to help them grow into manhood. On the other hand, there are red flags about this young mans maturity that must be addressed, so I certainly wouldn't go with the 'he's just a kid' thing. The most important attribute for a QB is quick decision making followed closely by leadership and Salter appears to have a gap there he needs to close quickly. For no, we have to trust that the coaches are having those closed door conversations with him. The rest is on him.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

Banks--Will Return
French--Will Return
Willis--Will Return

Too Too---Regressed after Freshman year. Sophomore version is not a big loss.
Crouch--Not gone yet. If returns will benefit from simpler scheme or move to an edge rusher.
Beasley--If allegations are true, needs major help.

I would guess the LB room will look a LOT different when the games start to count.