President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

It's disheartening how many think the wall is a good idea, or part of a multi stage approach curtailing illegal immigration. The cost alone should make everyone do a double take.
You did see how much those idiots sent to Afghanistan and for some of the other touchy feely programs didn't you?
 
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You did see how much those idiots sent to Afghanistan and for some of the other touchy feely programs didn't you?
I didn't see McDad volunteering to go to the border and help out either. Nothing like a good hypocrite, complain about the wall, but offer no ways to fix it. Maybe he should offer his house and bank account to help the poor migrants.
 
It's disheartening how many think the wall is a good idea, or part of a multi stage approach curtailing illegal immigration. The cost alone should make everyone do a double take.

What’s confusing is those who think like you. You think policy changes are going to curtail illegal immigration? Yeah good luck with that. A wall is much more effective than a fence.

Look we aren’t going to do anything to disincentivize people from coming here. So a stronger physical barrier would be an improvement over what we have now. Cost? Give me a break. We carelessly spend like drunken sailors. Money isn’t an issue or a care in today’s political world.
 
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What’s confusing is those who think like you. You think policy changes are going to curtail illegal immigration? Yeah good luck with that. A wall is much more effective than a fence.

Look we aren’t going to do anything to disincentivize people from coming here. So a stronger physical barrier would be an improvement over what we have now. Cost? Give me a break. We carelessly spend like drunken sailors. Money isn’t an issue or a care in today’s political world.

A wall isn’t going to curtail illegal immigration, as long as there is a reward for getting across the border people will come. The best wall would be not able to work or find housing.
 
A wall isn’t going to curtail illegal immigration, as long as there is a reward for getting across the border people will come. The best wall would be not able to work or find housing.

Like I said there is always gonna be a reward for getting across. It’s never gonna change. So a better physical barrier would help.
 
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I always question when someone says "fair". Fair to whom? I dont think anybody disagrees that corps need to pay taxes.
The tax code is so overburdening and so many loopholes the Bezos, Buffets and Gates escape from a personal perspective, and doubt their death tax will be erroneous a a multiple gen farmer.

Amazon paid tax rate of 1.2% on $13B in profits last year | Fox Business
 
What’s confusing is those who think like you. You think policy changes are going to curtail illegal immigration? Yeah good luck with that. A wall is much more effective than a fence.

Look we aren’t going to do anything to disincentivize people from coming here. So a stronger physical barrier would be an improvement over what we have now. Cost? Give me a break. We carelessly spend like drunken sailors. Money isn’t an issue or a care in today’s political world.
The people who share your opinion that a wall is needed have already decided a wall by itself is not enough. You're out on an island of thought all alone.
Your second paragraph is worse than the first. Government has failed to deincentivize people from coming here illegally so government will now create the solution. Good luck with that. I still care about spending...which is the island I and a few others inhabit.
 
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Like I said there is always gonna be a reward for getting across. It’s never gonna change. So a better physical barrier would help.
No it wouldnt. It temporarily slows things down. But eventually it just evens back out. Trumps stance against illegal immigrants had much more of an effect than his wall did.
 
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I personally think a wall has a benefit. I also know a wall by itself is useless.

It’s all risk/reward. As long as illegal immigrants see a bigger reward than risk they are going to keep coming. That’s why I say send everybody back ASAP to their country of origin when caught. Send them via military transport. Do it immediately. If they didn’t declare asylum in Mexico then they aren’t after asylum they are after America.

The issue comes when it’s Mexican nationals declaring asylum. This is their first safe country so that has to be dealt with by international law. And Mexican nationals are by far the largest amount of illegals. And if they don’t request asylum then don’t consider it and send their asses back.
 
Of course. Waste thrown into one dump is no better than waste thrown into another.

How bad would the border crisis be now without barrier or wall?

There is a national security perspective to this as well.
 
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I personally think a wall has a benefit. I also know a wall by itself is useless.

It’s all risk/reward. As long as illegal immigrants see a bigger reward than risk they are going to keep coming. That’s why I say send everybody back ASAP to their country of origin when caught. Send them via military transport. Do it immediately. If they didn’t declare asylum in Mexico then they aren’t after asylum they are after America.

The issue comes when it’s Mexican nationals declaring asylum. This is their first safe country so that has to be dealt with by international law. And Mexican nationals are by far the largest amount of illegals. And if they don’t request asylum then don’t consider it and send their asses back.

Is that true about it mostly Mexican now?
If so, as a Mexican Prez I would encourage it. It relieves my cost burden and get all those dollars sent back home.
 
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How bad would the border crisis be now without barrier or wall?

There is a national security perspective to this as well.
I can't reasonably compare hypothetical outcomes to actual outcomes. We could and should compare benefits of border walls throughout history to see how our plans measure up.
 
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Is that true about it mostly Mexican now?
If so, as a Mexican Prez I would encourage it. It relieves my cost burden and get all those dollars sent back home.
ding ding ding.

Which is why Xiden's victory was met with many a sigh of relief. Now he can dump his garbage on our doorstep. Pretty soon we will be footing (again) the lion's share of NATO, the UN, etc etc etc...

And we are gonna tax away 'climate change'.

Crushing it Joe.
 
Go for it....
If I were a supporter, I would. I dont want to blindly trust politicians of any party as they play on my emotions promising to fix something they themselves have mucked up. You can do that if you wish. You should simply admit you trust the official or the government to make you feel better, though.
 
If I were a supporter, I would. I dont want to blindly trust politicians of any party as they play on my emotions promising to fix something they themselves have mucked up. You can do that if you wish. You should simply admit you trust the official or the government to make you feel better, though.
Why do you think the scared pussy democrats in Washington put up barriers around our capitol? Is it because they don't work?
 
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