Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Catbone]

If Fulk doesn't play.... I'm going to be livid

 

[LA Vol]

We all know UT will never leave the SEC. The TV money already has been impacting decisionmaking. Donors and their opinions carry even less weight, and decisions have become even more revenue-based. You can see the shift in facility renos and the overall positioning of the university. It has been relatively subtle but will become less so.

 

[Smokeytom]

How about the buzzer going off when Watford was at the line? Wtf was that about? I would’ve been more pissed than Wade

 

[mr.checkerboards]

We all know UT will never leave the SEC. The TV money already has been impacting decisionmaking. Donors and their opinions carry even less weight, and decisions have become even more revenue-based. You can see the shift in facility renos and the overall positioning of the university. It has been relatively subtle but will become less so.

So we care even less about championships now, nice

 

[Catbone]

We all know UT will never leave the SEC. The TV money already has been impacting decisionmaking. Donors and their opinions carry even less weight, and decisions have become even more revenue-based. You can see the shift in facility renos and the overall positioning of the university. It has been relatively subtle but will become less so.

What you're saying is our trajectory is headed towards Vanderbilt incompetence in sports without the academic qualities. Sounds about right.

 

[LA Vol]

So we care even less about championships now, nice

Oh, everybody cares about them. There's value in winning. But caring about them isn't the same as doing what it takes to win them in the SEC.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Oh, everybody cares about them. There's value in winning. But caring about them isn't the same as doing what it takes to win them in the SEC.

True. I poorly worded that. TN is still unwilling to actually do what it takes to win one.

 

[Volator]

Oh, everybody cares about them. There's value in winning. But caring about them isn't the same as doing what it takes to win them in the SEC.

In your opinion, where is UT failing short? I have my own opinion and would like yours as you have better knowledge of the administration inter workings. TIA

 

[eVOLve]

In your opinion, where is UT failing short? I have my own opinion and would like yours as you have better knowledge of the administration inter workings. TIA

Big man.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Oh, everybody cares about them. There's value in winning. But caring about them isn't the same as doing what it takes to win them in the SEC.

And the common fan has less impact than ever before. They are going to cater to the money side. With huge TV dollars the fan in the stands means less and less.

 

[eVOLve]

Got nobody to grind it out in the paint.

 

[VolGee4]

Y’all see Nate Oats yell GTFO of here at LSU bench after that shot didn’t go down?

Classy

Yea, I wasn’t sure exactly what he said. Appears that Oats and Wade are meant for each other. Oats wines a lot too.

 

[volatil]

Yea, I wasn’t sure exactly what he said. Appears that Oats and Wade are meant for each other. Oats wines a lot too.

If it was directed at any other coach than Wade, I would be really pissed. Since it’s Will Wade I’m like “yeah GTFO of here”

 

[LoudOrange]

Of course not. We are now Vandy. Just give us our money. Tennessee Volunteers - sponsored by JG Wentworth.

We're actually lower than Vandy. JJ was suspended for half the bowl game for what happened on the Vandy sideline.
We've had cowards in charge since Joe Johnson and Dickey have been gone.

 

[volatil]

I wasn’t the only one to see it

 

[LA Vol]

What you're saying is our trajectory is headed towards Vanderbilt incompetence in sports without the academic qualities. Sounds about right.

No, I think UT's flag is planted firmly in the middle. The top teams have distanced themselves and created a big gap between those that are mid-pack. UT always has upside, but we've been down a long time-- and people have become much more accepting of that than in the past.

 

[butchna]

I said it would never happen but if we're in it for the SEC money, we're nothing more than Vandy. We're a welfare team.

Not with millions of Benjamins we ain’t!

 

[butchna]

No, I think UT's flag is planted firmly in the middle. The top teams have distanced themselves and created a big gap between those that are mid-pack. UT always has upside, but we've been down a long time-- and people have become much more accepting of that than in the past.

We could ramp up message board posts declaring that we’re not accepting it...that help?

 

[thistime]

We all know UT will never leave the SEC. The TV money already has been impacting decisionmaking. Donors and their opinions carry even less weight, and decisions have become even more revenue-based. You can see the shift in facility renos and the overall positioning of the university. It has been relatively subtle but will become less so.

UT Athletics is a business, pure and simple. Winning Championships or just being competitive has not seemed to be the end game for quite some time. I would like to see a break down of actual revenue generated by ticket sales and licensed apparel as opposed to TV money or revenue generated and divide among SEC schools just for being part of the SEC . Financially no current team in the SEC could afford to leave and only a very few schools nationally can or could afford to go it alone.

Edit to clarify the end game as not willing to pay for the elite coaches in most cases and settling for what they think is a bargain. Hopefully this has and will change.

 

[volatil]

Forgive the source

 

[LA Vol]

And the common fan has less impact than ever before. They are going to cater to the money side. With huge TV dollars the fan in the stands means less and less.

People hate on Fulmer, but he championed the common fan experience. He was very attuned to keeping tickets affordable and hosting events for families so kids could experience and carry on UT traditions. He was the one focused on making sure stadium renos created a better experience for all fans. You'll see different reno plans now. They'll reduce capacity and make Neyland more of an entertainment venue.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Yep recruiting is bad but it is what it is. I'm still VERY excited to see the style and scheme we play with on offense.

Why is recruiting “bad” ? Because we don’t have a commit yet? , don’t know how you can judge recruiting this early after an entire staff was just replaced and just finalized last week.....

 

[Catbone]

People hate on Fulmer, but he championed the common fan experience. He was very attuned to keeping tickets affordable and hosting events for families so kids could experience and carry on UT traditions. He was the one focused on making sure stadium renos created a better experience for all fans. You'll see different reno plans now. They'll reduce capacity and make Neyland more of an entertainment venue.

Tennessee Jaguars

 

[LA Vol]

UT Athletics is a business, pure and simple. Winning Championships or just being competitive has not seemed to be the end game for quite some time. I would like to see a break down of actual revenue generated by ticket sales and licensed apparel as opposed to TV money or revenue generated and divide among SEC schools just for being part of the SEC . Financially no current team in the SEC could afford to leave and only a very few schools nationally can or could afford to go it alone.

Edit to clarify the end game as not willing to pay for the elite coaches in most cases and settling for what they think is a bargain. Hopefully this has and will change.

Nobody wants to leave the SEC. It's a cash cow. Even the cellar dwellers benefit richly.

It just pays more.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

SEC got that #1 seed, seems that was what they wanted.