President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

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LouderVol said:
This is like Trump bragging about passing the cognizance test.

I am loving every time you point out how you elected Trump 2.0.
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Yes, completely equivalent. One guy saying X about himself, versus thousands of people saying something about him. I can see no difference in those two.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yes, completely equivalent. One guy saying X about himself, versus thousands of people saying something about him. I can see no difference in those two.
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Yeah I am sure the survey was a fill in the blank by completely unbiased individuals.

The fact that the survey makers are even asking that question tells you something is up.
 
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LouderVol said:
A wall wont keep them out.

If anything Biden shows that policy has more of an impact than physical barriers do.

We didnt suddenly tear down what walls we have, all that changed is that Biden started welcoming illegal border crossers.
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Two points:

We don't have a solid wall, and some we do is readily scalable, but they are a first line of deterrence even if they aren't impregnable in and of themselves. Choke points like the one in the river crossing are easily defended ... if somebody shows up to stop it.

Policy does indeed have an impact. Combine effective policy with border security and you've got a winner.
 
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evillawyer said:
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Just like you and your president this study is a complete joke. Yet you post it like it is some kind of proof Biden is doing a good job. Your link shows that Democrats were the major ones that liked Biden. Shocking.

Oh and 12,055 people sampled. I mean LOL. But keep in slurping that demented look aid.
 
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LouderVol said:
A wall wont keep them out.

If anything Biden shows that policy has more of an impact than physical barriers do.

We didnt suddenly tear down what walls we have, all that changed is that Biden started welcoming illegal border crossers.
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A well built wall would do a whole lot better than what we have now. That’s an undeniable fact.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Just like you and your president this study is a complete joke. Yet you post it like it is some kind of proof Biden is doing a good job. Your link shows that Democrats were the major ones that liked Biden. Shocking.

Oh and 12,055 people sampled. I mean LOL. But keep in slurping that demented look aid.
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We are now officially NK now.
 
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VolStrom said:
We wouldn't have needed border security if we had invested the money in central and south america that we did in china.
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We've invested a lot in South and central America - just the wrong products and few beneficiaries. And the bigger problem - their US ports of entry by necessity require the same porous borders that people importers need.
 
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AM64 said:
We've invested a lot in South and central America - just the wrong products and few beneficiaries. And the bigger problem - their US ports of entry by necessity require the same porous borders that people importers need.
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Another failed welfare program..Pols probably siphon it off. I would be curious to know how much we have cummtaively invested in several nations over the decades.
You would think a review of results would be logical, but not for gov. Why they sux at everything.
 
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AM64 said:
Two points:

We don't have a solid wall, and some we do is readily scalable, but they are a first line of deterrence even if they aren't impregnable in and of themselves. Choke points like the one in the river crossing are easily defended ... if somebody shows up to stop it.

Policy does indeed have an impact. Combine effective policy with border security and you've got a winner.
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These people hiked across potentially thousands of miles of rough area, got across a navigable river, are willing to risk jail time, finally get to the last 20 feet of their journey, see a wall, and say eff it, I am going home?

Let's put it this way. There is a 20/30/40 foot wall between your family and a much better life. Is that wall stopping you? Is it even getting you to hesitate or even think that a better life isnt worth it?

Cause if that was me, and all I had to do was get over a wall you better believe I am getting over that wall.
 
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LouderVol said:
These people hiked across potentially thousands of miles of rough area, got across a navigable river, are willing to risk jail time, finally get to the last 20 feet of their journey, see a wall, and say eff it, I am going home?

Let's put it this way. There is a 20/30/40 foot wall between your family and a much better life. Is that wall stopping you? Is it even getting you to hesitate or even think that a better life isnt worth it?

Cause if that was me, and all I had to do was get over a wall you better believe I am getting over that wall.
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Those people didn’t hike anything close to a 1000 miles, they road in trucks and busses. They are not risking jail time and if they knew they would be prevented from crossing the border, arrested and sent back for crossing the border or couldn’t find employment once they crossed the border because hiring an illegal was a prisonable offense they wouldn’t get within 20’ of the border.
 
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LouderVol said:
These people hiked across potentially thousands of miles of rough area, got across a navigable river, are willing to risk jail time, finally get to the last 20 feet of their journey, see a wall, and say eff it, I am going home?

Let's put it this way. There is a 20/30/40 foot wall between your family and a much better life. Is that wall stopping you? Is it even getting you to hesitate or even think that a better life isnt worth it?

Cause if that was me, and all I had to do was get over a wall you better believe I am getting over that wall.
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Then policy should have failed also. Walls and other barriers work pretty well around prisons, and the Berlin Wall was very effective, and yes both are augmented. It's always much easier for active measures to work when passive measures slow ingress - even a hastily erected barricade or abatis or a natural geographic boundary, etc. Those guys rowing people across could have been shut down quickly and easily with little effort. This is the same argument about walls, doors, windows, and locks to protect people and possessions; they aren't foolproof, but some are extremely effective.
 
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Immigrants are Hiding in BARS to wash in their bathrooms at the border: Texas Democrats slam Biden for not preparing for the surge in Rio Grande crossings - but the White House still insists it's NOT a crisis

Migrants crossing from Mexico into the United States are using a bar on the border in Texas to wash and change before heading inland, the bar owner has said, as Democrats in the state begin to criticize Joe Biden for failing to anticipate the situation.

Roberta Jacobsen, a former ambassador to Mexico who is serving as a special adviser to Biden, admitted on Wednesday that it was no coincidence that the surge came as Biden took power, promising a 'more humane' policy.

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Texas bar owner says migrants are using his facilities to wash as Democrats begin to criticize Biden | Daily Mail Online
 
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AM64 said:
Then policy should have failed also. Walls and other barriers work pretty well around prisons, and the Berlin Wall was very effective, and yes both are augmented. It's always much easier for active measures to work when passive measures slow ingress - even a hastily erected barricade or abatis or a natural geographic boundary, etc. Those guys rowing people across could have been shut down quickly and easily with little effort. This is the same argument about walls, doors, windows, and locks to protect people and possessions; they aren't foolproof, but some are extremely effective.
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A border wall doesn't really accomplish much other than serve as a money drain. Walls around prisons are designed to keep people in, not out. And the Berlin Wall was patrolled by armed guards who would shoot you dead. We need better immigration reform than "build a wall".
 
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