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LA Vol said:
He's the poster boy for a shift from team-first to me-first in CFB. He's all about his own goals and advancement, with little loyalty to his teammates or the team. You have to have that healthy balance where everyone's pulling together and players thrive when the team thrives.
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Unfortunately, we've had the latter for too long now.
 
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LA Vol said:
He's the poster boy for a shift from team-first to me-first in CFB. He's all about his own goals and advancement, with little loyalty to his teammates or the team. You have to have that healthy balance where everyone's pulling together and players thrive when the team thrives.
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Yet he’s supposedly transferring to a team that every time they were on tv last year the announcers couldn’t stop fawning over how “team first” they were.

Henry T is no different than most highly rated recruits. Same goals, same motivations.

He isn’t broken, UT was/is broken.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Yet he’s supposedly transferring to a team that every time they were on tv last year the announcers couldn’t stop fawning over how “team first” they were.

Henry T is no different than most highly rated recruits. Same goals, same motivations.

He isn’t broken, UT was/is broken.
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Agreed. I don't hold it against him for wanting to maximize his development and exposure to make as much money in the draft as possible.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Yet he’s supposedly transferring to a team that every time they were on tv last year the announcers couldn’t stop fawning over how “team first” they were.

Henry T is no different than most highly rated recruits. Same goals, same motivations.

He isn’t broken, UT was/is broken.
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Yes, UT was/is broken. And Henry T is making a me-first decision. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and he's far from the only player to do it. You'll see more and more, because CFB is changing and loyalty is weakening. The portal isn't the root cause; it's a symptom.
 
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@LA Vol - I'm glad to see you back in the thread. I have a favor to ask, if I may. I've been "studying" to sort of get myself as informed as possible with the transition we're going through right now and the implications thereof and I know there's a lot going on that I'm just in the dark about. Here's the thing though, I beginning to get the notion that we may have a better than expected probability of beating Florida this year. Now I know I'm probably way out in left field on this notion so can you provide some "reality" assessments that might help me to better ensure that my feet are on the ground and my head is out of the clouds? TIA
 
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LA Vol said:
The Bama system isn't going to work for UT. Neither is the UGA, LSU, Clemson or OSU systems. UT's old system no longer works, and we haven't found a new one. We'll flounder until we do.
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@LA Vol isn't this what we're trying to do with the turnover in the administration and gutting of the program? Build our new system? Or are you not convinced this is the case? Just curious on your opinion.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
@LA Vol - I'm glad to see you back in the thread. I have a favor to ask, if I may. I've been "studying" to sort of get myself as informed as possible with the transition we're going through right now and the implications thereof and I know there's a lot going on that I'm just in the dark about. Here's the thing though, I beginning to get the notion that we may have a better than expected probability of beating Florida this year. Now I know I'm probably way out in left field on this notion so can you provide some "reality" assessments that might help me to better ensure that my feet are on the ground and my head is out of the clouds? TIA
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IDT anybody knows what we have yet. Better coaches, fewer players, more development, less experience and proven production-- we'll see how it all starts coming together this spring. My initial outlook isn't as rosy as others-- but that could change after spring.
 
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volsfan_17 said:
@LA Vol isn't this what we're trying to do with the turnover in the administration and gutting of the program? Build our new system? Or are you not convinced this is the case? Just curious on your opinion.
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Different issues, different agendas. I've seen it firsthand within and between admin/donors/boosters. There seems to be cohesion among the new football staff, though. They seem happy to be at UT and excited to get started.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
There's a spot in Coalfield beside the Dollar General that'd be a great place for a Pal's....but apparently they don't franchise so I don't know how the f to put one there and make all the monies.
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They do franchise but not that far out. I think Abingdon was the farthest the old owner would let one go previously. I know a lot of people wanted him to put one on TN campus but he wouldnt do it.
 
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LA Vol said:
IDT anybody knows what we have yet. Better coaches, fewer players, more development, less experience and proven production-- we'll see how it all starts coming together this spring. My initial outlook isn't as rosy as others-- but that could change after spring.
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I understand we are lite in some position groups both from a talent and experience view but assuming the guys not in the portal are planning to hang around I still think we have a pretty good roster and that's without any additions that may happen post spring. There are other teams on our schedule that are dealing with their own issues. I start from the premise that we should have won 10 games in 2019 as a minimum AND we should have improved in 2020. I'm assessing the failure to live up to those expectations primarily on Pruitt and the way he mismanaged his staff and the team. I'm increasing optimistic that this new staff is unlikely to repeat his mistakes however sort of as you note it may take a bit longer than I may anticipate for them to turn the ship around and get it headed in the right direction. It would only take me 3 months but I realize everybody can't do that. Mullen did it at UF in one off season. Malzahn did it at Auburn in 2013. I'm just saying I honestly think these guys have a shot. jmo.

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LA Vol said:
IDT anybody knows what we have yet. Better coaches, fewer players, more development, less experience and proven production-- we'll see how it all starts coming together this spring. My initial outlook isn't as rosy as others-- but that could change after spring.
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Yeah...my confidence levels are about 70% on offense, I think we'll be better for a few reasons there. Staff that is already pulling in the same direction and has done it together before. An exciting brand of ball that can attract skill players and take advantage of the talent on roster better than what we ran previous and not only an actual QB coach with experience doing it but also a HC who is as elite a QB developer as you can find.

On defense my confidence levels are like 50% or so...I feel like the overall staff is stronger in all areas, but we're losing a lot of talent/bodies...this staff seems to have some very good recruiters though and also some good young energy, plus SEC experience and tons of guys who have big picture experience with coordinator time under their belts. Not to mention last year's defense was atrocious so the early assumption is even if we're not good/great next season we can still be better.

To me the hard bet for wins next year would be the over/under on 6.5. I can see us winning 6, hell I could see us winning as many as 8 if some of these other SEC teams aren't prepared for the sort of tempo we'll bring to the table. South Carolina and Vanderbilt are both in worse spots and we beat each last year with more proven HCs there. Missouri I'm just not sure if their HC actually "has" it. Ole Miss as the other west team really sucks, Lane is a hell of a coach and he always seems to have his teams play everyone competitively.
 
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LA Vol said:
Henry T doesn't want to be at UT. The other players are enrolled and going through workouts. Everyone has been through a lot, it's a period of adjustment and some players aren't sure where-- or if-- they fit in now. So they'll go through spring football and see how it goes.

It takes time to rebuild trust, and the more bonding with the team, the better. Sometimes, it's just broken, and those guys will leave.
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Alrighty then, Henry T

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mr.checkerboards said:
They do franchise but not that far out. I think Abingdon was the farthest the old owner would let one go previously. I know a lot of people wanted him to put one on TN campus but he wouldnt do it.
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Pal just died few months ago. Not sure how much interest there is in expanding.

They have stores in Norton and Wise. To me those are just logical extensions of Kingsport.

I could see Richlands and or Grundy at some point.
 
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