Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[rekinhavoc]

Ubben: I hope he has kids. That will buy a lot cigarettes.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Most of us missed it, a few called it immediately. I thought Uncle Phil would help him through the rough patches. That was really dumb on my part to think that - he enabled it to be a disaster.

 

[Batman1948]

I have hardly followed it, but I thought it was the players (or some portion) that didn't want to be out there while Eyes of Texas played. Isn't that what Herman was getting burnt for? Maybe I read it wrong.

Herman didn't want to be caught in the middle of this issue that was causing racial divide so he backed the players who didn't want to sing the song. That didn't go over very well with some powerful boosters and may be one of the reasons he was bought out. I'm sure there were plenty of football related issues that got him fired. This song, Eyes of Texas, is basically sung to the tune of "I've been working on the railroad" and that's the sticking point for the black players. It's all pretty ugly because the really big boosters are taking a stand that they want the song to stand.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Seen some mention about Mizzu feasting on weaker competition for most it’s numbers. I get it but heck we didn’t even put up good offense against weak opponents under Pruitt. So it’s a start. Also mizzu wasn’t a loaded roster by any means he had nobodies putting up big numbers around Lock. They were last place in conference offensively before he got there so it was bad. He has also evolved his offense even more since then similar to how he expanded on his Oklahoma offense. Eventually the kind of athlete he could recruit at TN will be more like what he had at Oklahoma but with using some of his evolution as a play caller.

I’m interested to see what it looks like and how it tweaks it what he will have at TN.

 

[m1al]

Just thank Phil.

Just doing his buddy a solid...

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Saw something? SAW SOMETHING? Are you kidding? That is common #%$@$@ knowledge and that curse has had some serious legs. Next one of us that goes to Jamaica, please, PLEASE find someone to reverse this evil voodoo cloud that continues to hang over Neyland.

Haiti is where the primo Voodoo is...
Scary place for sure.

 

[UTfan94]

We've not been the same since Dickey left as AD

Bingo.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

So, just turned 31 today. Suck it you old farts!

For my 31st birthday, I drank 31 shots of tequila. Beer chasers. Received a lifetime ban from a bar. Had a hangover for a week.

Good times. Definitely put a stop to binging. Whew. Hurts just thinking about that birthday.
Glad that I am too old for that now...

 

[Catbone]

15 years folks. 15 years.

2006 Tennessee Football: Oh my God we haven't won the SEC East in TWO years!

2008 Tennessee Football: Wait, we lost 7 games this year?! Has that ever happened to us before?

2010 Tennessee Football: We just hired a coach from the Western Athletic Conference that has a losing record what are we doing?

2012 Tennessee Football: We haven't won more than 6 games in 3 years, we have hit rock bottom!

2017 Tennessee Football: We just had an 8 loss season we have DEFINITELY hit rock bottom this time!

2020 Tennessee football: We just got blown out by Kentucky by 27 points at home it ISNT POSSIBLE for it to get worse now!

2021 Tennessee football: We are about to have NCAA sanctions for the foreseeable future and recruiting is struggling we have gone THROUGH the rock bottom!

 

[Aesius]

15 years folks. 15 years.

2006 Tennessee Football: Oh my God we haven't won the SEC East in TWO years!

2008 Tennessee Football: Wait, we lost 7 games this year?! Has that ever happened to us before?

2010 Tennessee Football: We just hired a coach from the Western Athletic Conference that has a losing record what are we doing?

2012 Tennessee Football: We haven't won more than 6 games in 3 years, we have hit rock bottom!

2017 Tennessee Football: We just had an 8 loss season we have DEFINITELY hit rock bottom this time!

2020 Tennessee football: We just got blown out by Kentucky by 27 points at home it ISNT POSSIBLE for it to get worse now!

2021 Tennessee football: We are about to have NCAA sanctions for the foreseeable future and recruiting is struggling we have gone THROUGH the rock bottom!

We have to go 0-12 for the curse to finally be lifted.

 

[Catbone]

We have to go 0-12 for the curse to finally be lifted.

This would be the year to do it. Break it off once and for all

 

[mikemist]

They deleted the previous blind fold tweet lol

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Just doing his buddy a solid...

Steele would’ve made that money anyways. It was just a matter of if Auburn was going to have to pay it all or not. Still a stupid move by Fulmer.

 

[Orange Studs]

In other words he wants an easy job handed to him..screw him, I hope he rots there.

Dang McGill lol

 

[99Vol]

Herman didn't want to be caught in the middle of this issue that was causing racial divide so he backed the players who didn't want to sing the song. That didn't go over very well with some powerful boosters and may be one of the reasons he was bought out. I'm sure there were plenty of football related issues that got him fired. This song, Eyes of Texas, is basically sung to the tune of "I've been working on the railroad" and that's the sticking point for the black players. It's all pretty ugly because the really big boosters are taking a stand that they want the song to stand.

The Damning History Behind UT’s ‘The Eyes of Texas’ Song
Maybe someone can explain. It’s seems it’s not the song that is the issue but that it was part of blackface performances till the 60’s. It seems the song is being punished but really the rub is the blackface.

 

[Orange Studs]

Officially listed as OLB and STC

I am excited about the energy he is going to be bring to our LB's. Maybe now they will play like madmen. lol

 

[Orange Studs]

This clear up the Steele consternation?

Is there still a chance that Steele will be on staff?

 

[Vols4us]

Yep - I remember you little guy. lol.

You did actually call it immediately.

 

[columbia vol]

Dawn spent a full segment on 3HL crushing Phil Williams. She was pissed lol

Williams is a total nut job

 

[m1al]

Steele would’ve made that money anyways. It was just a matter of if Auburn was going to have to pay it all or not. Still a stupid move by Fulmer.

Totally agree...

 

[Orange Studs]

I am sooo sorry - I hope time eases your pain and leaves you only with those wonderful memories.
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Where did you find my saying and my name isn't Author or unknown?

 

[drvenner]

While there was the report in the Palm Beach Post regarding Heupel being saddled with the DC holdover from the Frost era (Shannon), I guess he wasn't really the problem that everyone makes him out to be this year (2020). UCF had a 27-game winning streak with Shannon in charge of the defense and took down Auburn in a "National Championship Game". Shannon's success with the UCF defense stretched across the tenure of 2 head coaches. The problem in 2020 was UCF had something like 10 players opt out of the season presumably for Covid reasons, and some of those guys were key players on the defense that they had no comparable replacements for. I posted about that shortly after the Heupel hire and in looking at the table below I would find it difficult to claim that Shannon wasn't a good hire for UCF.

I think to have a relatively good team you probably need to be in at least the top 40 for both offensive and defensive efficiency. Missouri had a decent football team in 2018 the year Dooley took over for Heupel as the OC. Obviously, Josh had a lot to do with Lock's development but his last year, the one with Dooley, MO won 8 games, including beating both us and Florida. They lost to UK, SC, UGA, & UA in the regular season and lost to Oklahoma State in their bowl game. Still that was improvement they hadn't seen in some time. Dooley had a different offensive philosophy such that MO went from essentially last in the nation in Time of Possession to top 40. I imagine that was a significant benefit for the defense.

Given that Josh had the last 12 wins in the UCF 27-game winning streak I'm guessing it may not be that difficult after all for the defense to adjust to its offense's style of play. The last game of 2018 UCF lost to LSU by 8 points. They lost 3 games in 2019 by I think a combined 7 points. I'm reasonably confident that if he does that here we'll have widespread demands to get rid of him. Can you imagine not winning every game? Surely that can't be acceptable. The very definition of mediocrity if you ask me. jmo.

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This does not fit Jack's narrative. He is not going to like it.

 

[drvenner]

He out coached Saban in their NC game. If it weren’t for a few miracle plays, Smart wins.

So, he gagged it away?

 

[butchna]

Is there still a chance that Steele will be on staff?

DC...guaranteed.

 

[drvenner]

For my 31st birthday, I drank 31 shots of tequila. Beer chasers. Received a lifetime ban from a bar. Had a hangover for a week.

Good times. Definitely put a stop to binging. Whew. Hurts just thinking about that birthday.
Glad that I am too old for that now...

Yeah because doing 79 shots next year would likely do you in.