Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[KPT_VFL]

...it’s day 4.

Not to mention 1 of those days they didn’t even really do anything

I just think we will land on Will Healy. Nothing good happens to UT. We’ve made our bed the past fifteen years and we are trying at least b it we just aren’t an attractive job. We have had zero stability. It’s why we just need to go with Elliott and hope he one out. We aren’t what we once were.

 

[utkevdawg1]

I guess my only question for @MetalVolunteer and/or @Atlanta VOL is when we might see an announcement or some legitimate leaks?
Less worried about who as opposed to when. Trusting the process.

I selfishly just want to put my head down on some work and stop feeling the urge to check back in for a bit haha.

 

[BruinVol]

If this is true, I question whether the better decision was not to lawyer up and tell the NCAA to screw off. Was getting rid of Pruitt and saving the buy out (if indeed that is what happens) worth what the NCAA is going to give us? Seems like it won't be.

No it wasn’t wort it

And it wasn’t done to save the buyout

 

[give_him 6]

Basilio is sometimes entertaining to listen to (except when they talk wrestling), in that he is a fan like all of us but with a radio show. I don't think he has any inside info at all. He also tends to be very, very, very pessimistic.

Perhaps, but he has been correct since November regarding Pruitt and Fulmer.

 

[mrmax86]

I, for one, am OK with all of this Franklin talk. It lets me know that there has been no news on the search and I have not missed anything.

I don't see ANYONE talking about Franklin

 

[mr.checkerboards]

At least SMU bought championships. We bought a 3-7 season. My goodness

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

With all the names being thrown out there someone's bound to be right... and then claim they were an insider.....Stoerner is the only insider I've seen that's credible this far. imo

99Vawl called the fire/retire before anyone

 

[KeyVol14]

When is considered lunch time? This is getting depressing

 

[TN-POSSUM]

 

[LA Vol]

UT hasn't officially released the number and scope of violations. There's more out there than they chose to paper; otherwise, more would be gone. NCAA is still poking around and their backlog will drag this out for a while, though backgrounded.

 

[KPT_VFL]

I know @Atlanta VOL said he’d be silent but if we don’t hear any news today I think we are scrambling way down our list. His silence worries me.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don’t want Franklin either but he can’t judge what is inside a person..... I use to work with a guy that I thought was the nicest guy ever until the FBI raised his home due to his addiction to kiddie porn.

Scum attracts scum

 

[rekinhavoc]

I call BS on the media poor mouthing UT.

They don't know doodly. Probably pissed off they have no insight so they say nobody wants the job because of the gump's violations. Franklin whom I am pretty sure they know the UT fans dislike is a frontrunner that turned us down? Click bait.

 

[Batman1948]

Rivals.com - Fact or Fiction: Tennessee is a top-10 job in college football

If The Myth Busters were still around, this would be a good thing for them to prove or disprove

 

[Smokeyshowl66]

The depth and swiftness of DP's & RB's response will score some points with NCAA. I still think we're looking at some material sanctions, if for nothing else, lack of institutional control. I also think Phil Fulmer knew more than RB & DP let on - they were just treating him nicely in the public eye because that's what Boosters wanted. My best guess is he was told he needed to retire or be fired.

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

Basillio is throwing every name discussed on here all weekend long. He's got nothing.

To be honest, he is openly saying he doesn't know any names for sure except for James Franklin. He is saying that he has talked to other coaches in the business and they all know the how damaged the brand is around the coaching inner circles.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Those players involved are POS and they're serving time in prison but Franklin was cleared by the DA and state so I'm not sure it's fair to hold it against him. He had his time in court

The players were dismissed from the football team on June 29, 2013, and banned from campus during the six-week investigation that followed.[12] On August 9, 2013, they were arrested and indicted for aggravated rape and sexual battery.[13][12] All four men were charged with five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery.
In July 2016, after being convicted by a Davidson County Criminal Court jury, Batey, 22 years old, received a 15-year prison sentence, the minimum allowed by law for his crimes (while both the victim and prosecutors had asked the judge for the maximum sentence possible of 25 years to be meted out); after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[2][14][9][15] He is serving his time in Riverbend Maximum Security Institution.[16]
In November 2016, after being convicted Vanderburg was sentenced to 17 years in prison; after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[17] He is serving his time in Morgan County Correctional Complex.[16]
In August 2017, after being convicted Banks received a 15-year sentence; after he gets out he will be required to be listed on the sex-offender registry for the rest of his life.[18] He is serving his time in Turney Center Industrial Complex.[16]
In March 2018, after testifying against his three co-defendants and pleading guilty to facilitation of aggravated rape, McKenzie, 23 years old, accepted a plea deal which included 10 years' probation and a lifetime registration as a sex offender, and became the only of the four defendants to not receive any jail time.[6][19][20] He was not seen touching the victim after he helped his teammates carry her into the dorm room.[21][6]
A fifth player, Chris Boyd, pleaded guilty in September 2013 to being an accessory after the fact by encouraging his teammates to keep quiet and destroy evidence of the rape, and was dismissed from the team but not the university for his role in helping cover up the rape.[22][23][24] He testified against Vandenberg and Batey as part of a plea deal, and was sentenced to a year of unsupervised probation.[25]
Appeals by Batey, Vanderburg, and Banks to the Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals in efforts to have their convictions overturned were unsuccessful in 2019.[19] In 2020, the Tennessee Supreme Court declined to reconsider Vandenburg's appeal of his conviction.[

Scum attracts scum.

 

[Face]

50 Level I and II's just means everyone who could talk did talk.

Would this not just mean that something went sideways (aka Dan Patrick’s story) at a couple recruiting weekends?
Have 50 guys come through on big visits or something and a Big Mac has a Benjamin in it. Each an individual violation?

 

[Ace]

50 Level I and II's just means everyone who could talk did talk.

If we provided an unauthorized benefit (like a meal or hotel room) to a recruit and/or his family that would be 1 violation. What if we did that with 50 recruits? That would be 50 violations. Although it is 50 violations, that does not sound as serious as 50 separate types of violations. Just the same violation 50 times. I am not say this is what the staff was doing, I just used that as an example.

 

[UneducatedGuess]

I know @Atlanta VOL said he’d be silent but if we don’t hear any news today I think we are scrambling way down our list. His silence worries me.

You’ve been worrying for days

Give your bleeding nubs for fingers a rest from chewing for a bit.

 

[BigSteve09]

I don't know if DW has an Ace of Spades in his hand, or even a King of Spades, but I don't think he's going to play the 6 of Hearts either.

He didn't take this job, for all of this money (that comes with expectations), to play a name from the middle of his list. He's swinging for the fences and then playing his best card he's been carrying for a while.

 

[Christian Lowe]

If it is will healy, I think we should allocate majority resources to basketball and make the commitment to be a basketball school. Yeah we’ve had a bad couple of games, but that’s where our athletic departments future is. Football is dead

 

[Bigworm87]

Perhaps, but he has been correct since November regarding Pruitt and Fulmer.

So has quite a few other people. He wasn't breaking anything. He has flip flopped on a ton of things in the past month. Should tell you all you need to know when multiple times last week he mentioned 2 different things that were on this board 10 minutes after they were posted. He just "spitballs" and throws a bunch of stuff out there and something will eventually stick, and he'll say I told ya. Can't be wrong when you throw every coach in the business out there as a possibility.

Also mentioned earlier "I've heard they've contacted James Franklin" like bro, we had that rumor 2 days ago.

 

[EezyE]

I know @Atlanta VOL said he’d be silent but if we don’t hear any news today I think we are scrambling way down our list. His silence worries me.

It’s not even 11:30 am. It’s going to be ok.

 

[UTProf]

Who says the phone call was inappropriate?

You don’t call a victim, especially when your players are the accused.