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This is why I think we should look at coaches with strong overall resumes who may have had a down season or two recently. Guys who need to "reset their clock" somewhere else. If they have strong teams they are unlikely to leave to take over a dumpster fire.

Dan Mullen had a top 10 caliber team coming back for the 2018 season at Miss State, when he left. I couldn’t believe he left that team. Strange things happen.

I have no idea if we have a shot at Campbell, but it has happened before.
 
There are totally risks going the coordinator route with Elliott.

There are also huge risk going lower level with guys like Chadwell/Napier, regardless of their success at that level.

Overall, I want one of Campbell/Kiffin, but if they’re unavailable and we’re looking at the OC/G5 stack, I’d be totally fine if DW thinks Elliott is the best choice. He’s better suited at quantifying those risks/rewards and has proven it at both of his stops so far.
Regardless of what you hear, Kiffin is NOT unavailable. Tennessee just doesn't have the balls.
 
All you who are sour on Fleck because of his corny slogans and Butchiness won't give a crap if he's winning 10+ games.
Yall be the first to buy his slogan merch.

...and I'm not even a fan of Fleck.
 
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Dan Mullen had a top 10 caliber team coming back for the 2018 season at Miss State, when he left. I couldn’t believe he left that team. Strange things happen.

I have no idea if we have a shot at Campbell, but it has happened before.

True, but he left for UF. They fish in different waters and can turn in god awful seasons and bounce back immediately next year.
 
I dunno. I worry about Elliot coming from the situation he’s in at Clemson to our mess of a situation. Personally, I feel like we need someone that’s built a program.
This. He hasn't coached against superior talent in ages. Anyone looks good when they play 2 games a year against equal talent and 0 against superior talent. He has no experience building. He's just an X/I guy so far, being a head coach is a totally different job.
 
So, I see overnight while I was away we’ve transitioned from “It’s Campbell!” to now convincing ourselves Tony Elliot would be a slam dunk.

I’m happy for those that are in that mindset, and I’m trying to not be negative, but I just can’t do another coordinator. I’m sorry I just can’t. I’m through with the unproven coordinator experiment.

I’m also tired of hiring coordinators that have made their living off of the cream of the crop talent. There is NOTHING that would excited me about Tony Elliot.

There are a number of other coaches out there I could get behind, but I just can’t live through another 3-4 year coordinator experiment. We all know how this ends.
 
Elliott's offenses at clemson while he was CO OC and OC. Also provided is the composite team talent rankings from 247.

Total offense
2015: 11th (13th most talented team)

2016: 12th (9th most talented team)

2017: 38th (9th most talented team)

2018: 3rd (6th most talented team)

2019: 5th (9th most talented team)

2020: 10th (4th most talented team)
 
Elliott would be a name that the national media loves. He also has ties to top guys. What kind of staff he could put together is a big question mark but he is intriguing. My biggest worry is if Dabo leaves for Bama in 3 years does Clemson come calling.
Do you remember that many on here had the same worry about Pruitt going to bama if they called?
 
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You know that isn't true at all. Elliott is actually liked as a person. A ton of schools have interviewed him. CFB would sing his praise and he would be a minority coach at a premiere football school in the south. Recruits and families would love it.
Who cares. We have little talent. We are in the dumps. We are facing sanctions. Don’t care he’s a minority. We need a winner, someone with experience. The coordinator route is a no go and would be insanely stupid based upon our present situation. He is not the answer to what we need. Would take a miracle for him to succeed here
 
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