Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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LA Vol said:
Well, yes, they could have fired him months ago for any number of reasons, including performance. Pay his buyout and both sides could have moved on with less animosity and damage. But now UT is in the legal zone. They either let him do his job, keep him, stand behind him and hope broken relationships can be pieced together for another year... negotiate a buyout with NDA... or fire for cause and expect legal ramifications.
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Maybe it’s a dumb question but why aren’t coaches fired for underperforming? It’s ridiculous to know 3-7 isn’t enough to keep the money and give him his papers.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
That sounds so f'n easy doesn't it?
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My point is that recruiting will take care of itself, for the most part. For example, despite all the $6¡7 we’ve been through, we haven’t had a recruiting class rank lower than Fulmer’s last one (35th). We need a winner and developer of players first, recruiting should be a factor but it should be on down the list in the current situation.
 
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revjayp said:
He went 7-3 last year, was 5-0 in bowl games yet he’s such a douche, they fired him. That tells me all I need to know. Bring him.

Jk... I don’t want that crap here either.
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one thing that I haven’t seen mentioned is Barnes. I think he would be used with all his connections to Texas to bet Herman
 
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LA Vol said:
Well, yes, they could have fired him months ago for any number of reasons, including performance. Pay his buyout and both sides could have moved on with less animosity and damage. But now UT is in the legal zone. They either let him do his job, keep him, stand behind him and hope broken relationships can be pieced together for another year... negotiate a buyout with NDA... or fire for cause and expect legal ramifications.
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So the options are one more year of Pruitt or attempt to fire for cause?

Why not fire and pay buyout?
 
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jakez4ut said:
and i'd have no doubt pruitt would do the same.

which again, makes no sense as to why the results of this investigation are the deciding factor. they don't need that to justify firing him, at least from a public perception standpoint, and there's got to be next to nothing to gain in the long run by saving the $12m buyout.

none of this makes any sense. at all.
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They are doing this slimy weaselly cheapskate crap simply to get out of paying him his buyout...that is beyond stupid. This is almost criminal stupidity.
 
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Marrone is a solid coach, but he doesn't stick around at jobs long and would probably be looking for the first opportunity to jump back to the NFL. Freeze is a good coach that would love to be at UT, but what came out publicly from his time at Ole Miss doesn't include everything the Ole Miss internal investigation found on him. There's more to it than the prostitute thing, and the UT admin and SEC know. Herman is a great coach, iffy on personality and can rub folks the wrong way. I do think he would see some appeal in coaching the real UT. No clear answer...even in getting rid of Pruitt because of the short term roster issues that would happen that could make it really hard on a new coach.
 
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LA Vol said:
I'm not there... but he's not acting like a guy who wants to be let go. He's acting like a guy who wants to do his job and is frustrated at being hamstrung. It's easier to come to an agreement when both sides have the same end goal. Not sure we're at that point.
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And this is one of the reasons I am coming around to his side of this. He is going to work and I like it
 
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Some dude on Basilio giving great breakdowns on the coaching candidates being tossed around.
Herman- not a good talent developer and pissed off the boosters
Marrone- Not a good fit in the south. No recruiting ties. Hard nose coach. Good technician.
Malzahn- Offense is stale, doesn't use rb's very well, carried by Steele, good recruiter
Fickell- Knows the area, surrounds himself with good staff, offense is innovative

all paraphrased
 
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revjayp said:
Marrone paired with Hobby as DC gets my attention... we need a CEO coach... If he can bring some adulthood to the position along with some innovative offensive coaches, I could see it working...
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The offensive side would be a major question mark and I just can't trace a ton of guys with connections to Marrone on offense. He had Natahaniel Hackett with him for forever. From Syracuse to Jacksonville, but I doubt Hackett is leaving Green Bay to be the OC at Tennessee.
 
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