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seaofORANGE22 said:
At this point the Pruitt stock looks worse every day. The cause of the drop is no longer about bad football but about Tennessee's unwillingness to provide clarity on Pruitt moving forward.

Feels like there are 2 scenarios that are possible.

1. They are in complete denial of how down on Pruitt the fanbase truly is. They think we're shortsighted, emotional and reactionary. They choose to withhold their acknowledgement of us as they sit in their pointy castle and watch us suffer down below. What they may not be realizing is, their silence is actually hurting their coach too. All of us now burning. They warm their hands near the flames. We will keep our coach no matter what. Because you should remember who is in charge. No explanation deserved or required.

I hate number 1.

2. They do care. But they are actually the ones in the dark. Perhaps they are waiting on information to be revealed in the investigation which will provide clarity to help them properly evaluate Pruitt. I'm thinking they've been planning to keep him and Fulmer tried to hint at that in his spring practice comment. But that was far from a clear endorsement.

Maybe they're concerned about backing him publicly not knowing if something damning could come out of the investigation. Pruitts on field performance and sour relationships around Tennessee may not have inspired blind loyalty. And as time has gone on, the more it feels like the negativity around Pruitt continues to rise. Hires have to be made. Now I wonder if it's starting to occur to them that the best way to right the ship might really be to go ahead and fire him and start fresh. To me the longer they don't speak up for Pruitt the worse it looks. Surely somebody around that place knows this.

Which makes me think a change may be coming. Maybe this wasn't the initial plan. Maybe the time with family at home over the holidays reflecting on the good times has sparked some ideas in the imagination of these people. Surely they desire to be great. Or at least be good. They could have an opportunity that's fallen in their laps to take another swing at it. The magic with Pruitt really has kinda worn off. But this program is so much more than just Pruitt, or even Fulmer

The thing is.... If this is not true. And they're bringing him back no matter what, why not announce it publicly? Why not be clear? We've said this for weeks now but it's more pressing with each passing day. They could embrace him and downplay his failures and assure us Tennessee football is right on track and will be on top again soon. But they haven't. Makes you wonder.

Time will tell I suppose.

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I doubt they are in the dark about anything. I think it’s all politics and money, behind the scenes. Football is just the vehicle. They care that there is always a steady flow of juice to squeeze out of the big orange fanbase.
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
At this point the Pruitt stock looks worse every day. The cause of the drop is no longer about bad football but about Tennessee's unwillingness to provide clarity on Pruitt moving forward.

Feels like there are 2 scenarios that are possible.

1. They are in complete denial of how down on Pruitt the fanbase truly is. They think we're shortsighted, emotional and reactionary. They choose to withhold their acknowledgement of us as they sit in their pointy castle and watch us suffer down below. What they may not be realizing is, their silence is actually hurting their coach too. All of us now burning. They warm their hands near the flames. We will keep our coach no matter what. Because you should remember who is in charge. No explanation deserved or required.

I hate number 1.

2. They do care. But they are actually the ones in the dark. Perhaps they are waiting on information to be revealed in the investigation which will provide clarity to help them properly evaluate Pruitt. I'm thinking they've been planning to keep him and Fulmer tried to hint at that in his spring practice comment. But that was far from a clear endorsement.

Maybe they're concerned about backing him publicly not knowing if something damning could come out of the investigation. Pruitts on field performance and sour relationships around Tennessee may not have inspired blind loyalty. And as time has gone on, the more it feels like the negativity around Pruitt continues to rise. Hires have to be made. Now I wonder if it's starting to occur to them that the best way to right the ship might really be to go ahead and fire him and start fresh. To me the longer they don't speak up for Pruitt the worse it looks. Surely somebody around that place knows this.

Which makes me think a change may be coming. Maybe this wasn't the initial plan. Maybe the time with family at home over the holidays reflecting on the good times has sparked some ideas in the imagination of these people. Surely they desire to be great. Or at least be good. They could have an opportunity that's fallen in their laps to take another swing at it. The magic with Pruitt really has kinda worn off. But this program is so much more than just Pruitt, or even Fulmer

The thing is.... If this is not true. And they're bringing him back no matter what, why not announce it publicly? Why not be clear? We've said this for weeks now but it's more pressing with each passing day. They could embrace him and downplay his failures and assure us Tennessee football is right on track and will be on top again soon. But they haven't. Makes you wonder.

Time will tell I suppose.

Like sand through the hour glass, so are the days of our Vols.
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Someone in the math department needs to explain the costs of practically hiring all new assistants vs. firing and hiring a new HC .
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
"I’m not convinced Pruitt will be back right now."- Babyvol from VQ, I believe a few on here thought he was reliable
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This guy. He’s a wanna-be journalist. I appreciate his attempts to bring info but good lord, wait until you have something solid or just don’t say anything at all. Like AV does...
 
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rekinhavoc said:
The situation is fluid.....
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Yea i mean it’s also possible that even the ones pulling the trigger may no really know what’s going to happen. The longer this internal investigation goes on without a peep.... it leads me to believe that there’s smoke there. Whether it leads to the firing of JP or not remains to be seen. But a worthless morning opinion from a former employee...... There’s no way UT or any school would WANT to drag out an investigation and let chatter continue to build like this. There’s someone on the hill whether it be the academic/Thornton center or the compliance office that is hell bent on something being serious enough to cause all of this. There’s simply too much to be done in terms of recruiting, hiring assistants, and just overall preparing for the next year for us to be doing all this for some ticky tack secondary recruiting violation.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Someone in the math department needs to explain the costs of practically hiring all new assistants vs. firing and hiring a new HC .
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Doesn’t pruitts buyout go down each year..... do we save money with the lowered buyout plus new assistants or would it be cheaper this year?
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Hurts was pissed, I don't think him and Pederson are gonna get along too well after this.
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Many believe this call came from above. Doug had to ask permission to bench Wentz and he also had staff changes forced on him by owner/GM. The vibe in Philly is a mess but it’s more because owner/GM fell in love with a mediocre QB and Doug never did.
 
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I don't think there will be any staff movement on Monday but we will see if anything happens this week.

I don't see any good in dragging things out. But no one is putting anything to rest at this point so feels like everything is tangling in the wind. Now if by mid-week Pruitt makes a hire then it would appear we have an answer. Does the Chancellor speak publicly this week? Do they offer an update on where the investigation is?

In talking to people this weekend and looking at things, my OPINION is the central questions are where is the Chancellor with Pruitt and where is the investigation. Do we get any kind of update this week? I don't believe Pruitt has been interviewed as a part of the investigation as of tonight.
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-Hubbs
 
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