Stats Don't Lie & It's Not Pretty for Pruitt

[DownNDirty]

I have seen others trying to use statistical analysis to try to justify that we aren't that far off in being a good team. Maybe they are trying to give themselves hope that a Coach Gomer led squad will be able to get the job done. While I agree that we may not be light years off (right now, this minute) - if Gomer is retained - light years off will come IMO after this next offseason when it will completely derail.

Here's what I done for statistical comparisons - I looked at Points Per Game in 2020 and looked at everyone in the conference's largest margin's of victory, defeat, who those margins came against, wins or losses by 10+ points, wins and losses by 21+ points, and looked at the Rating System Rankings for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2019, 2018).

In the difference between Points Per Game and Points Allowed Per Game Tennessee was at a -8.6. This was only better than Arkansas (-9.2), South Carolina (-12.5), and Vandy (-22.5). It should be noted that both South Carolina and Vandy fired their coaches and Arkansas had a first year coach at the helm - who beat Tennessee.

PPG Difference 2020

1. Alabama +29.2
2. Georgia +12.3
3. A&M +10.6
4. Florida +9
5. Ole Miss +0.9 - Kiffin's first year at Ole Miss
6. Auburn +0.4 - fired Malzhan
7. LSU -2.9
8. Kentucky -4.7
9. Missouri -5.6 - Drink's first year at Missouri
10. Miss St. -6.7 - Leach's first year at MSU
11. Tennessee -8.6
12. Arkansas -9.2 - Pittman's first year at Arkansas
13. South Carolina -12.5 - fired Muschamp
14. Vandy -22.5 - fired Mason

For Largest Margin of Victory Tennessee bested Vandy by 25 points. There were only two schools who were below 25 for their largest MOV (Mississipi State at 19 and Arkansas at 12). It should be noted also that Vandy had 9 losses and 4 other teams also had their largest Margin of Victory over them - Ole Miss (33), LSU (34), South Carolina (34), and Missouri (41). Every other school that had their largest MOV vs Vandy beat them worse than Tennessee did. Also, every team that we beat period also showed up on someone else's largest Margin of Victory category. Mississippi State and Georgia both had their largest MOV's over Missouri and A&M had their largest over South Carolina.

In overall Losses by 10+ points Tennessee had 7, the highest in the SEC. Every game they lost, they lost by 10+ points. Even Vandy only managed to have that happen to them 6 times. For losses by 21+ points Tennessee had 4 of them - typing South Carolina who also had 4. Vanderbilt had 6.

Losses by 10+ points

1. Tennessee 7
2. Vandy 6 - fired Mason
2. South Carolina 6 - fired Muschamp
4. Missouri 5
4. Kentucky 5
6. Arkansas 4
6. Miss St 4
6. LSU 4
6. Auburn 4
10. Ole Miss 3
11. Georgia 2
12. Florida 1
12. A&M 1
14. Bama 0

That statistic above should be the one that makes you nervous if you are a Tennessee fan. We had SEVEN 10+ point losses in 2020, most in the SEC. Gomer don't just lose, he loses big - 4 of those 7 were 21+ point drubbings.

Losses by 21+ points

1. Vandy 6
2. Tennessee 4
2. South Carolina 4
4. Missouri 3
4. Arkansas 3
6. Kentucky 2
6. Miss. St 2
6. LSU 2
6. Auburn 2
10. Florida 1
10. A&M 1
12. Ole Miss 0
12. Georgia 0
12. Bama 0

When you look at overall team ratings which compiles all of the stats and spits teams out compared to every other NCAA Division 1 school in 2020 Tennessee ranked 89th out of 127 schools. The only two schools who rated worse in the SEC were South Carolina at 103 and Vandy at 121. Our other win on the year - Missouri - ranked 88th - one spot above Tennessee in the final ranks. So we beat teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. We beat no teams in the top 85 statistically. And again it should be noted that both South Carolina and Vanderbilt fired their head coaches.

I looked at the difference between 2020 and 2019 final Rating Rankings and Tennessee fell 48 spots from 41st in 2019. That would be the second biggest drop in 2020 in the SEC with only LSU falling further - and it's because they fell from #1 to #64.

2020 vs 2019 differences ranked in the SEC

1. Arkansas +53 - with new coach
2. Ole Miss +23 - with new coach
3. Alabama & Texas A&M +2 each
5. Vandy & Miss. State -5 each
7. Georgia & Florida -7 each
9. Kentucky -32
10. Auburn -33
11. Missouri -38
12. South Carolina -45
13. Tennessee -48
14. LSU -63

As you can see there most of the SEC actually fell back from 2019 - many of them significant drop offs. Only two teams significantly improved and they were Arkansas and Ole Miss - both with new head coaches.

Everyone can have their own theories and arguments but I have always tried to back up my "feelings" with statistics also. I used that during Butch's last two years here to make my case on why I knew he wasn't the man for the job. If you can look at any of these statistics and trends and feel good about Gomer Cornbread being the head coach at UT then more power to you. I see things for what they are - and they ARE a dumpster fire for UT at the moment. And my feeling is that is 100% because we have a guy who has absolutely no business being a head football coach at the D1 level - at any school.

For God's sake our 3 wins this year were over teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. If that's the standard for UT football then so be it but it shouldn't be and those in charge of this whole fiasco should be embarrassed beyond belief. Bring this guy back next year and see what happens - it won't be pretty. I still maintain the hope that Tennessee is still trying to figure out exactly how low they can get the buyout down to and he's going to be gone either way. And if I'm wrong about that then let's examine these statistics again next year with fresh new data. I have a hunch the results won't be much prettier than they are right now.

 

[EZE]

No matter how you slice it...it’s a sh!t sandwich.

 

[1972 Grad]

So, Tennessee isn't a very good football team?

 

[Skippy95]

The lack of competitiveness and preparation in every game should tell the entire story of pruitts tenure here at Tennessee.

 

[hog88]

So, Tennessee isn't a very good football team?

It appears to be the case.

 

[1972 Grad]

It appears to be the case.

I think my assessment was a bit more concise and to the point.

 

[N.ohio vol]

We knew it wasnt pretty. But reading the stats makes it worse.

 

[BeardedVol]

I have seen others trying to use statistical analysis to try to justify that we aren't that far off in being a good team. Maybe they are trying to give themselves hope that a Coach Gomer led squad will be able to get the job done. While I agree that we may not be light years off (right now, this minute) - if Gomer is retained - light years off will come IMO after this next offseason when it will completely derail.

Here's what I done for statistical comparisons - I looked at Points Per Game in 2020 and looked at everyone in the conference's largest margin's of victory, defeat, who those margins came against, wins or losses by 10+ points, wins and losses by 21+ points, and looked at the Rating System Rankings for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2019, 2018).

In the difference between Points Per Game and Points Allowed Per Game Tennessee was at a -8.6. This was only better than Arkansas (-9.2), South Carolina (-12.5), and Vandy (-22.5). It should be noted that both South Carolina and Vandy fired their coaches and Arkansas had a first year coach at the helm - who beat Tennessee.

PPG Difference 2020

1. Alabama +29.2
2. Georgia +12.3
3. A&M +10.6
4. Florida +9
5. Ole Miss +0.9 - Kiffin's first year at Ole Miss
6. Auburn +0.4 - fired Malzhan
7. LSU -2.9
8. Kentucky -4.7
9. Missouri -5.6 - Drink's first year at Missouri
10. Miss St. -6.7 - Leach's first year at MSU
11. Tennessee -8.6
12. Arkansas -9.2 - Pittman's first year at Arkansas
13. South Carolina -12.5 - fired Muschamp
14. Vandy -22.5 - fired Mason

For Largest Margin of Victory Tennessee bested Vandy by 25 points. There were only two schools who were below 25 for their largest MOV (Mississipi State at 19 and Arkansas at 12). It should be noted also that Vandy had 9 losses and 4 other teams also had their largest Margin of Victory over them - Ole Miss (33), LSU (34), South Carolina (34), and Missouri (41). Every other school that had their largest MOV vs Vandy beat them worse than Tennessee did. Also, every team that we beat period also showed up on someone else's largest Margin of Victory category. Mississippi State and Georgia both had their largest MOV's over Missouri and A&M had their largest over South Carolina.

In overall Losses by 10+ points Tennessee had 7, the highest in the SEC. Every game they lost, they lost by 10+ points. Even Vandy only managed to have that happen to them 6 times. For losses by 21+ points Tennessee had 4 of them - typing South Carolina who also had 4. Vanderbilt had 6.

Losses by 10+ points

1. Tennessee 7
2. Vandy 6 - fired Mason
2. South Carolina 6 - fired Muschamp
4. Missouri 5
4. Kentucky 5
6. Arkansas 4
6. Miss St 4
6. LSU 4
6. Auburn 4
10. Ole Miss 3
11. Georgia 2
12. Florida 1
12. A&M 1
14. Bama 0

That statistic above should be the one that makes you nervous if you are a Tennessee fan. We had SEVEN 10+ point losses in 2020, most in the SEC. Gomer don't just lose, he loses big - 4 of those 7 were 21+ point drubbings.

Losses by 21+ points

1. Vandy 6
2. Tennessee 4
2. South Carolina 4
4. Missouri 3
4. Arkansas 3
6. Kentucky 2
6. Miss. St 2
6. LSU 2
6. Auburn 2
10. Florida 1
10. A&M 1
12. Ole Miss 0
12. Georgia 0
12. Bama 0

When you look at overall team ratings which compiles all of the stats and spits teams out compared to every other NCAA Division 1 school in 2020 Tennessee ranked 89th out of 127 schools. The only two schools who rated worse in the SEC were South Carolina at 103 and Vandy at 121. Our other win on the year - Missouri - ranked 88th - one spot above Tennessee in the final ranks. So we beat teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. We beat no teams in the top 85 statistically. And again it should be noted that both South Carolina and Vanderbilt fired their head coaches.

I looked at the difference between 2020 and 2019 final Rating Rankings and Tennessee fell 48 spots from 41st in 2019. That would be the second biggest drop in 2020 in the SEC with only LSU falling further - and it's because they fell from #1 to #64.

2020 vs 2019 differences ranked in the SEC

1. Arkansas +53 - with new coach
2. Ole Miss +23 - with new coach
3. Alabama & Texas A&M +2 each
5. Vandy & Miss. State -5 each
7. Georgia & Florida -7 each
9. Kentucky -32
10. Auburn -33
11. Missouri -38
12. South Carolina -45
13. Tennessee -48
14. LSU -63

As you can see there most of the SEC actually fell back from 2019 - many of them significant drop offs. Only two teams significantly improved and they were Arkansas and Ole Miss - both with new head coaches.

Everyone can have their own theories and arguments but I have always tried to back up my "feelings" with statistics also. I used that during Butch's last two years here to make my case on why I knew he wasn't the man for the job. If you can look at any of these statistics and trends and feel good about Gomer Cornbread being the head coach at UT then more power to you. I see things for what they are - and they ARE a dumpster fire for UT at the moment. And my feeling is that is 100% because we have a guy who has absolutely no business being a head football coach at the D1 level - at any school.

For God's sake our 3 wins this year were over teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. If that's the standard for UT football then so be it but it shouldn't be and those in charge of this whole fiasco should be embarrassed beyond belief. Bring this guy back next year and see what happens - it won't be pretty. I still maintain the hope that Tennessee is still trying to figure out exactly how low they can get the buyout down to and he's going to be gone either way. And if I'm wrong about that then let's examine these statistics again next year with fresh new data. I have a hunch the results won't be much prettier than they are right now.

No worries. We've been told that Pruitt is going to buck the trend, because reasons, and completely turn things around by year 4, or year 5 at the latest, and we just have to be patient because he's still learning how to be a head coach, the team is young, and we had to deal with covid and subsequent restrictions.

I think that covers the usual responses to any statistics showing the downward trend under Pruitt.

 

[74charger]

Again, if cornbread is retained then I see no reason to Financially support these morons. My money doesn’t add up to much for them but it’s my money and I’m not wasting it on their stupidity.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I have seen others trying to use statistical analysis to try to justify that we aren't that far off in being a good team. Maybe they are trying to give themselves hope that a Coach Gomer led squad will be able to get the job done. While I agree that we may not be light years off (right now, this minute) - if Gomer is retained - light years off will come IMO after this next offseason when it will completely derail.

Here's what I done for statistical comparisons - I looked at Points Per Game in 2020 and looked at everyone in the conference's largest margin's of victory, defeat, who those margins came against, wins or losses by 10+ points, wins and losses by 21+ points, and looked at the Rating System Rankings for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2019, 2018).

In the difference between Points Per Game and Points Allowed Per Game Tennessee was at a -8.6. This was only better than Arkansas (-9.2), South Carolina (-12.5), and Vandy (-22.5). It should be noted that both South Carolina and Vandy fired their coaches and Arkansas had a first year coach at the helm - who beat Tennessee.

PPG Difference 2020

1. Alabama +29.2
2. Georgia +12.3
3. A&M +10.6
4. Florida +9
5. Ole Miss +0.9 - Kiffin's first year at Ole Miss
6. Auburn +0.4 - fired Malzhan
7. LSU -2.9
8. Kentucky -4.7
9. Missouri -5.6 - Drink's first year at Missouri
10. Miss St. -6.7 - Leach's first year at MSU
11. Tennessee -8.6
12. Arkansas -9.2 - Pittman's first year at Arkansas
13. South Carolina -12.5 - fired Muschamp
14. Vandy -22.5 - fired Mason

For Largest Margin of Victory Tennessee bested Vandy by 25 points. There were only two schools who were below 25 for their largest MOV (Mississipi State at 19 and Arkansas at 12). It should be noted also that Vandy had 9 losses and 4 other teams also had their largest Margin of Victory over them - Ole Miss (33), LSU (34), South Carolina (34), and Missouri (41). Every other school that had their largest MOV vs Vandy beat them worse than Tennessee did. Also, every team that we beat period also showed up on someone else's largest Margin of Victory category. Mississippi State and Georgia both had their largest MOV's over Missouri and A&M had their largest over South Carolina.

In overall Losses by 10+ points Tennessee had 7, the highest in the SEC. Every game they lost, they lost by 10+ points. Even Vandy only managed to have that happen to them 6 times. For losses by 21+ points Tennessee had 4 of them - typing South Carolina who also had 4. Vanderbilt had 6.

Losses by 10+ points

1. Tennessee 7
2. Vandy 6 - fired Mason
2. South Carolina 6 - fired Muschamp
4. Missouri 5
4. Kentucky 5
6. Arkansas 4
6. Miss St 4
6. LSU 4
6. Auburn 4
10. Ole Miss 3
11. Georgia 2
12. Florida 1
12. A&M 1
14. Bama 0

That statistic above should be the one that makes you nervous if you are a Tennessee fan. We had SEVEN 10+ point losses in 2020, most in the SEC. Gomer don't just lose, he loses big - 4 of those 7 were 21+ point drubbings.

Losses by 21+ points

1. Vandy 6
2. Tennessee 4
2. South Carolina 4
4. Missouri 3
4. Arkansas 3
6. Kentucky 2
6. Miss. St 2
6. LSU 2
6. Auburn 2
10. Florida 1
10. A&M 1
12. Ole Miss 0
12. Georgia 0
12. Bama 0

When you look at overall team ratings which compiles all of the stats and spits teams out compared to every other NCAA Division 1 school in 2020 Tennessee ranked 89th out of 127 schools. The only two schools who rated worse in the SEC were South Carolina at 103 and Vandy at 121. Our other win on the year - Missouri - ranked 88th - one spot above Tennessee in the final ranks. So we beat teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. We beat no teams in the top 85 statistically. And again it should be noted that both South Carolina and Vanderbilt fired their head coaches.

I looked at the difference between 2020 and 2019 final Rating Rankings and Tennessee fell 48 spots from 41st in 2019. That would be the second biggest drop in 2020 in the SEC with only LSU falling further - and it's because they fell from #1 to #64.

2020 vs 2019 differences ranked in the SEC

1. Arkansas +53 - with new coach
2. Ole Miss +23 - with new coach
3. Alabama & Texas A&M +2 each
5. Vandy & Miss. State -5 each
7. Georgia & Florida -7 each
9. Kentucky -32
10. Auburn -33
11. Missouri -38
12. South Carolina -45
13. Tennessee -48
14. LSU -63

As you can see there most of the SEC actually fell back from 2019 - many of them significant drop offs. Only two teams significantly improved and they were Arkansas and Ole Miss - both with new head coaches.

Everyone can have their own theories and arguments but I have always tried to back up my "feelings" with statistics also. I used that during Butch's last two years here to make my case on why I knew he wasn't the man for the job. If you can look at any of these statistics and trends and feel good about Gomer Cornbread being the head coach at UT then more power to you. I see things for what they are - and they ARE a dumpster fire for UT at the moment. And my feeling is that is 100% because we have a guy who has absolutely no business being a head football coach at the D1 level - at any school.

For God's sake our 3 wins this year were over teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. If that's the standard for UT football then so be it but it shouldn't be and those in charge of this whole fiasco should be embarrassed beyond belief. Bring this guy back next year and see what happens - it won't be pretty. I still maintain the hope that Tennessee is still trying to figure out exactly how low they can get the buyout down to and he's going to be gone either way. And if I'm wrong about that then let's examine these statistics again next year with fresh new data. I have a hunch the results won't be much prettier than they are right now.

Nicely done, D&D. It's good research, and is telling. I appreciate it.

Now if only you hadn't gone all teenage angst in your second-to-last paragraph. You had really good research, well delivered and explained. I'd have been 100% with you. Until you started the name-calling.

Thanks for this. But grow up.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

I have seen others trying to use statistical analysis to try to justify that we aren't that far off in being a good team. Maybe they are trying to give themselves hope that a Coach Gomer led squad will be able to get the job done. While I agree that we may not be light years off (right now, this minute) - if Gomer is retained - light years off will come IMO after this next offseason when it will completely derail.

Here's what I done for statistical comparisons - I looked at Points Per Game in 2020 and looked at everyone in the conference's largest margin's of victory, defeat, who those margins came against, wins or losses by 10+ points, wins and losses by 21+ points, and looked at the Rating System Rankings for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2019, 2018).

In the difference between Points Per Game and Points Allowed Per Game Tennessee was at a -8.6. This was only better than Arkansas (-9.2), South Carolina (-12.5), and Vandy (-22.5). It should be noted that both South Carolina and Vandy fired their coaches and Arkansas had a first year coach at the helm - who beat Tennessee.

PPG Difference 2020

1. Alabama +29.2
2. Georgia +12.3
3. A&M +10.6
4. Florida +9
5. Ole Miss +0.9 - Kiffin's first year at Ole Miss
6. Auburn +0.4 - fired Malzhan
7. LSU -2.9
8. Kentucky -4.7
9. Missouri -5.6 - Drink's first year at Missouri
10. Miss St. -6.7 - Leach's first year at MSU
11. Tennessee -8.6
12. Arkansas -9.2 - Pittman's first year at Arkansas
13. South Carolina -12.5 - fired Muschamp
14. Vandy -22.5 - fired Mason

For Largest Margin of Victory Tennessee bested Vandy by 25 points. There were only two schools who were below 25 for their largest MOV (Mississipi State at 19 and Arkansas at 12). It should be noted also that Vandy had 9 losses and 4 other teams also had their largest Margin of Victory over them - Ole Miss (33), LSU (34), South Carolina (34), and Missouri (41). Every other school that had their largest MOV vs Vandy beat them worse than Tennessee did. Also, every team that we beat period also showed up on someone else's largest Margin of Victory category. Mississippi State and Georgia both had their largest MOV's over Missouri and A&M had their largest over South Carolina.

In overall Losses by 10+ points Tennessee had 7, the highest in the SEC. Every game they lost, they lost by 10+ points. Even Vandy only managed to have that happen to them 6 times. For losses by 21+ points Tennessee had 4 of them - typing South Carolina who also had 4. Vanderbilt had 6.

Losses by 10+ points

1. Tennessee 7
2. Vandy 6 - fired Mason
2. South Carolina 6 - fired Muschamp
4. Missouri 5
4. Kentucky 5
6. Arkansas 4
6. Miss St 4
6. LSU 4
6. Auburn 4
10. Ole Miss 3
11. Georgia 2
12. Florida 1
12. A&M 1
14. Bama 0

That statistic above should be the one that makes you nervous if you are a Tennessee fan. We had SEVEN 10+ point losses in 2020, most in the SEC. Gomer don't just lose, he loses big - 4 of those 7 were 21+ point drubbings.

Losses by 21+ points

1. Vandy 6
2. Tennessee 4
2. South Carolina 4
4. Missouri 3
4. Arkansas 3
6. Kentucky 2
6. Miss. St 2
6. LSU 2
6. Auburn 2
10. Florida 1
10. A&M 1
12. Ole Miss 0
12. Georgia 0
12. Bama 0

When you look at overall team ratings which compiles all of the stats and spits teams out compared to every other NCAA Division 1 school in 2020 Tennessee ranked 89th out of 127 schools. The only two schools who rated worse in the SEC were South Carolina at 103 and Vandy at 121. Our other win on the year - Missouri - ranked 88th - one spot above Tennessee in the final ranks. So we beat teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. We beat no teams in the top 85 statistically. And again it should be noted that both South Carolina and Vanderbilt fired their head coaches.

I looked at the difference between 2020 and 2019 final Rating Rankings and Tennessee fell 48 spots from 41st in 2019. That would be the second biggest drop in 2020 in the SEC with only LSU falling further - and it's because they fell from #1 to #64.

2020 vs 2019 differences ranked in the SEC

1. Arkansas +53 - with new coach
2. Ole Miss +23 - with new coach
3. Alabama & Texas A&M +2 each
5. Vandy & Miss. State -5 each
7. Georgia & Florida -7 each
9. Kentucky -32
10. Auburn -33
11. Missouri -38
12. South Carolina -45
13. Tennessee -48
14. LSU -63

As you can see there most of the SEC actually fell back from 2019 - many of them significant drop offs. Only two teams significantly improved and they were Arkansas and Ole Miss - both with new head coaches.

Everyone can have their own theories and arguments but I have always tried to back up my "feelings" with statistics also. I used that during Butch's last two years here to make my case on why I knew he wasn't the man for the job. If you can look at any of these statistics and trends and feel good about Gomer Cornbread being the head coach at UT then more power to you. I see things for what they are - and they ARE a dumpster fire for UT at the moment. And my feeling is that is 100% because we have a guy who has absolutely no business being a head football coach at the D1 level - at any school.

For God's sake our 3 wins this year were over teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. If that's the standard for UT football then so be it but it shouldn't be and those in charge of this whole fiasco should be embarrassed beyond belief. Bring this guy back next year and see what happens - it won't be pretty. I still maintain the hope that Tennessee is still trying to figure out exactly how low they can get the buyout down to and he's going to be gone either way. And if I'm wrong about that then let's examine these statistics again next year with fresh new data. I have a hunch the results won't be much prettier than they are right now.

 

[LittleVol]

I think my assessment was a bit more concise and to the point.

Actually no. It was NOT.
The point was about Pruitt making the team suck.
How precisely WHEN we lose, we lose bad.

But I guess you support losing to Florida, Georgia, and Alabama by an average of 26 points a game EVERY YEAR.

There. Is that consice enough for you?

 

[landscapingvol]

No worries. We've been told that Pruitt is going to buck the trend, because reasons, and completely turn things around by year 4, or year 5 at the latest, and we just have to be patient because he's still learning how to be a head coach, the team is young, and we had to deal with covid and subsequent restrictions.

I think that covers the usual responses to any statistics showing the downward trend under Pruitt.

You forgot he is an elite DC and wants to win

 

[vols 30]

Nicely done OP. These stats are depressing but tell the truth.


And for the record, he is Gomer Cornbread

 

[DownNDirty]

Nicely done, D&D. It's good research, and is telling. I appreciate it.

Now if only you hadn't gone all teenage angst in your second-to-last paragraph. You had really good research, well delivered and explained. I'd have been 100% with you. Until you started the name-calling.

Thanks for this. But grow up.

Hey we all have our own opinions. I could call him, or anyone else, much worse names. I don't think he's a good coach but I call him Gomer Cornbread in jest also. I used to be a Collections/Repo/Foreclosure manager for a regional bank. Believe me, whatever bad or dirty name you could think of being called - I've been called it before. So maybe I do have a bit of cynicism built into me from doing that kind of thing for 15+ years but I don't wish any ill will on him personally or his family. I don't think you could go back and look at anything I've said pertaining to any coaches in the past where I've wished them personal harm or malice.

I really detested the trumpet humper and everything he stood for and I still wouldn't wish personal harm on him. I like to take jabs though - and don't feel too bad about calling someone a name like Gomer Cornbread. I'm not protesting in front of the guys house or painting a rock. Just throwing out statistics on why I think he just can't get the job done.

But again, everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions. Just because we don't see eye to eye doesn't matter to me in the grand scheme of things. If I'm going to dish it out I need to be able to take it. And with the types of jobs I've had in the past and still have - I've got a pretty thick skin by now haha.

 

[onevol74]

Nicely done, D&D. It's good research, and is telling. I appreciate it.

Now if only you hadn't gone all teenage angst in your second-to-last paragraph. You had really good research, well delivered and explained. I'd have been 100% with you. Until you started the name-calling.

Thanks for this. But grow up.

As I heard a former player say on the radio recently. You have winners and teams that use excuses. He said he is tired of excuses. I have to agree with him.

 

[LittleVol]

Some people take this stuff way to seriously lol. Solid research and solid post.

It was a perfectly good post by the OP.

The jack rabbit who to told him to grow up, thinks his own posts are God's doctrine for UT football. And really his opinions are just stale and dry. What makes it worst is that he decides to write a book about his lame opinion when does express it. Super long, boring drivel...

And the irony is, how can ANYONE call themselves a UT fan when they support a coach who is obviously taking the program down the drain? Talking about " grow up" haha. How about he WISE UP? smh...

 

[CA_Vol]

I have seen others trying to use statistical analysis to try to justify that we aren't that far off in being a good team. Maybe they are trying to give themselves hope that a Coach Gomer led squad will be able to get the job done. While I agree that we may not be light years off (right now, this minute) - if Gomer is retained - light years off will come IMO after this next offseason when it will completely derail.

Here's what I done for statistical comparisons - I looked at Points Per Game in 2020 and looked at everyone in the conference's largest margin's of victory, defeat, who those margins came against, wins or losses by 10+ points, wins and losses by 21+ points, and looked at the Rating System Rankings for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2019, 2018).

In the difference between Points Per Game and Points Allowed Per Game Tennessee was at a -8.6. This was only better than Arkansas (-9.2), South Carolina (-12.5), and Vandy (-22.5). It should be noted that both South Carolina and Vandy fired their coaches and Arkansas had a first year coach at the helm - who beat Tennessee.

PPG Difference 2020

1. Alabama +29.2
2. Georgia +12.3
3. A&M +10.6
4. Florida +9
5. Ole Miss +0.9 - Kiffin's first year at Ole Miss
6. Auburn +0.4 - fired Malzhan
7. LSU -2.9
8. Kentucky -4.7
9. Missouri -5.6 - Drink's first year at Missouri
10. Miss St. -6.7 - Leach's first year at MSU
11. Tennessee -8.6
12. Arkansas -9.2 - Pittman's first year at Arkansas
13. South Carolina -12.5 - fired Muschamp
14. Vandy -22.5 - fired Mason

For Largest Margin of Victory Tennessee bested Vandy by 25 points. There were only two schools who were below 25 for their largest MOV (Mississipi State at 19 and Arkansas at 12). It should be noted also that Vandy had 9 losses and 4 other teams also had their largest Margin of Victory over them - Ole Miss (33), LSU (34), South Carolina (34), and Missouri (41). Every other school that had their largest MOV vs Vandy beat them worse than Tennessee did. Also, every team that we beat period also showed up on someone else's largest Margin of Victory category. Mississippi State and Georgia both had their largest MOV's over Missouri and A&M had their largest over South Carolina.

In overall Losses by 10+ points Tennessee had 7, the highest in the SEC. Every game they lost, they lost by 10+ points. Even Vandy only managed to have that happen to them 6 times. For losses by 21+ points Tennessee had 4 of them - typing South Carolina who also had 4. Vanderbilt had 6.

Losses by 10+ points

1. Tennessee 7
2. Vandy 6 - fired Mason
2. South Carolina 6 - fired Muschamp
4. Missouri 5
4. Kentucky 5
6. Arkansas 4
6. Miss St 4
6. LSU 4
6. Auburn 4
10. Ole Miss 3
11. Georgia 2
12. Florida 1
12. A&M 1
14. Bama 0

That statistic above should be the one that makes you nervous if you are a Tennessee fan. We had SEVEN 10+ point losses in 2020, most in the SEC. Gomer don't just lose, he loses big - 4 of those 7 were 21+ point drubbings.

Losses by 21+ points

1. Vandy 6
2. Tennessee 4
2. South Carolina 4
4. Missouri 3
4. Arkansas 3
6. Kentucky 2
6. Miss. St 2
6. LSU 2
6. Auburn 2
10. Florida 1
10. A&M 1
12. Ole Miss 0
12. Georgia 0
12. Bama 0

When you look at overall team ratings which compiles all of the stats and spits teams out compared to every other NCAA Division 1 school in 2020 Tennessee ranked 89th out of 127 schools. The only two schools who rated worse in the SEC were South Carolina at 103 and Vandy at 121. Our other win on the year - Missouri - ranked 88th - one spot above Tennessee in the final ranks. So we beat teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. We beat no teams in the top 85 statistically. And again it should be noted that both South Carolina and Vanderbilt fired their head coaches.

I looked at the difference between 2020 and 2019 final Rating Rankings and Tennessee fell 48 spots from 41st in 2019. That would be the second biggest drop in 2020 in the SEC with only LSU falling further - and it's because they fell from #1 to #64.

2020 vs 2019 differences ranked in the SEC

1. Arkansas +53 - with new coach
2. Ole Miss +23 - with new coach
3. Alabama & Texas A&M +2 each
5. Vandy & Miss. State -5 each
7. Georgia & Florida -7 each
9. Kentucky -32
10. Auburn -33
11. Missouri -38
12. South Carolina -45
13. Tennessee -48
14. LSU -63

As you can see there most of the SEC actually fell back from 2019 - many of them significant drop offs. Only two teams significantly improved and they were Arkansas and Ole Miss - both with new head coaches.

Everyone can have their own theories and arguments but I have always tried to back up my "feelings" with statistics also. I used that during Butch's last two years here to make my case on why I knew he wasn't the man for the job. If you can look at any of these statistics and trends and feel good about Gomer Cornbread being the head coach at UT then more power to you. I see things for what they are - and they ARE a dumpster fire for UT at the moment. And my feeling is that is 100% because we have a guy who has absolutely no business being a head football coach at the D1 level - at any school.

For God's sake our 3 wins this year were over teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. If that's the standard for UT football then so be it but it shouldn't be and those in charge of this whole fiasco should be embarrassed beyond belief. Bring this guy back next year and see what happens - it won't be pretty. I still maintain the hope that Tennessee is still trying to figure out exactly how low they can get the buyout down to and he's going to be gone either way. And if I'm wrong about that then let's examine these statistics again next year with fresh new data. I have a hunch the results won't be much prettier than they are right now.

Hire this guy as coach!

 

[ftsandersvol]

I have seen others trying to use statistical analysis to try to justify that we aren't that far off in being a good team. Maybe they are trying to give themselves hope that a Coach Gomer led squad will be able to get the job done. While I agree that we may not be light years off (right now, this minute) - if Gomer is retained - light years off will come IMO after this next offseason when it will completely derail.

Here's what I done for statistical comparisons - I looked at Points Per Game in 2020 and looked at everyone in the conference's largest margin's of victory, defeat, who those margins came against, wins or losses by 10+ points, wins and losses by 21+ points, and looked at the Rating System Rankings for the past 3 seasons (2020, 2019, 2018).

In the difference between Points Per Game and Points Allowed Per Game Tennessee was at a -8.6. This was only better than Arkansas (-9.2), South Carolina (-12.5), and Vandy (-22.5). It should be noted that both South Carolina and Vandy fired their coaches and Arkansas had a first year coach at the helm - who beat Tennessee.

PPG Difference 2020

1. Alabama +29.2
2. Georgia +12.3
3. A&M +10.6
4. Florida +9
5. Ole Miss +0.9 - Kiffin's first year at Ole Miss
6. Auburn +0.4 - fired Malzhan
7. LSU -2.9
8. Kentucky -4.7
9. Missouri -5.6 - Drink's first year at Missouri
10. Miss St. -6.7 - Leach's first year at MSU
11. Tennessee -8.6
12. Arkansas -9.2 - Pittman's first year at Arkansas
13. South Carolina -12.5 - fired Muschamp
14. Vandy -22.5 - fired Mason

For Largest Margin of Victory Tennessee bested Vandy by 25 points. There were only two schools who were below 25 for their largest MOV (Mississipi State at 19 and Arkansas at 12). It should be noted also that Vandy had 9 losses and 4 other teams also had their largest Margin of Victory over them - Ole Miss (33), LSU (34), South Carolina (34), and Missouri (41). Every other school that had their largest MOV vs Vandy beat them worse than Tennessee did. Also, every team that we beat period also showed up on someone else's largest Margin of Victory category. Mississippi State and Georgia both had their largest MOV's over Missouri and A&M had their largest over South Carolina.

In overall Losses by 10+ points Tennessee had 7, the highest in the SEC. Every game they lost, they lost by 10+ points. Even Vandy only managed to have that happen to them 6 times. For losses by 21+ points Tennessee had 4 of them - typing South Carolina who also had 4. Vanderbilt had 6.

Losses by 10+ points

1. Tennessee 7
2. Vandy 6 - fired Mason
2. South Carolina 6 - fired Muschamp
4. Missouri 5
4. Kentucky 5
6. Arkansas 4
6. Miss St 4
6. LSU 4
6. Auburn 4
10. Ole Miss 3
11. Georgia 2
12. Florida 1
12. A&M 1
14. Bama 0

That statistic above should be the one that makes you nervous if you are a Tennessee fan. We had SEVEN 10+ point losses in 2020, most in the SEC. Gomer don't just lose, he loses big - 4 of those 7 were 21+ point drubbings.

Losses by 21+ points

1. Vandy 6
2. Tennessee 4
2. South Carolina 4
4. Missouri 3
4. Arkansas 3
6. Kentucky 2
6. Miss. St 2
6. LSU 2
6. Auburn 2
10. Florida 1
10. A&M 1
12. Ole Miss 0
12. Georgia 0
12. Bama 0

When you look at overall team ratings which compiles all of the stats and spits teams out compared to every other NCAA Division 1 school in 2020 Tennessee ranked 89th out of 127 schools. The only two schools who rated worse in the SEC were South Carolina at 103 and Vandy at 121. Our other win on the year - Missouri - ranked 88th - one spot above Tennessee in the final ranks. So we beat teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. We beat no teams in the top 85 statistically. And again it should be noted that both South Carolina and Vanderbilt fired their head coaches.

I looked at the difference between 2020 and 2019 final Rating Rankings and Tennessee fell 48 spots from 41st in 2019. That would be the second biggest drop in 2020 in the SEC with only LSU falling further - and it's because they fell from #1 to #64.

2020 vs 2019 differences ranked in the SEC

1. Arkansas +53 - with new coach
2. Ole Miss +23 - with new coach
3. Alabama & Texas A&M +2 each
5. Vandy & Miss. State -5 each
7. Georgia & Florida -7 each
9. Kentucky -32
10. Auburn -33
11. Missouri -38
12. South Carolina -45
13. Tennessee -48
14. LSU -63

As you can see there most of the SEC actually fell back from 2019 - many of them significant drop offs. Only two teams significantly improved and they were Arkansas and Ole Miss - both with new head coaches.

Everyone can have their own theories and arguments but I have always tried to back up my "feelings" with statistics also. I used that during Butch's last two years here to make my case on why I knew he wasn't the man for the job. If you can look at any of these statistics and trends and feel good about Gomer Cornbread being the head coach at UT then more power to you. I see things for what they are - and they ARE a dumpster fire for UT at the moment. And my feeling is that is 100% because we have a guy who has absolutely no business being a head football coach at the D1 level - at any school.

For God's sake our 3 wins this year were over teams who ranked 88, 103, and 121. If that's the standard for UT football then so be it but it shouldn't be and those in charge of this whole fiasco should be embarrassed beyond belief. Bring this guy back next year and see what happens - it won't be pretty. I still maintain the hope that Tennessee is still trying to figure out exactly how low they can get the buyout down to and he's going to be gone either way. And if I'm wrong about that then let's examine these statistics again next year with fresh new data. I have a hunch the results won't be much prettier than they are right now.

 

[DownNDirty]

Hire this guy as coach!

I would do it for 500k a year and unlimited meals at Copper Cellar.

 

[TnVol!]

3-7. Lost to Kentucky by 28. Fire his ass. Hire Freeze. Fire Fulmer too.

 

[Tnphil]

Good job OP.

And....does this mean we really aren't "Closing the gap" like we've been told?

 

[Switch 625]

My eyes show me that the situation is far worse than these statistics indicate.

 

[VOL-TIL-I-DIE]

Cant believe we continue to bad mouth CJP. He’s a true winner he’s restoring the glory in this football program day by day and snap by snap. Who cares what his stats are; we beat Vandy this year. Next year is an up year and we’ll beat some FCS teams!

 

[1972 Grad]

Actually no. It was NOT.
The point was about Pruitt making the team suck.
How precisely WHEN we lose, we lose bad.

But I guess you support losing to Florida, Georgia, and Alabama by an average of 26 points a game EVERY YEAR.

There. Is that consice enough for you?

You may need to try decaf, and it's concise.