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And before he showed up MSU wasn’t winning any of those games except for Memphis and Alcorn State

Sylvester Croom went 4-8 the year before but lost to Auburn 3-2, a top 5 LSU by 10, and to UK 14-13. Croom went 8-5 the year before that and had to play a top ten West Virginia team OOC. Also played a top 5 West Virginia team the year before that.

Mullen's second year looked great to fans, but a competent coach could beat those teams.
 
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You are obviously a young follower of SEC football. Im not going to continue to go back and forth, but I will remind you of your argument "rebuilds don't take 4-5 years" and then give me Mullen as an example. He goes 5-7, 9-4, 7-6 in his first 3. Would you accept this job of rebuild by Pruitt?
Again I continue to ask.... Post one example of a rebuild then

MSU and Tennessee aren’t on the same level, buddy. Comparing them is ridiculous. Tennessee has some of the best resources in the country. We have of the highest coaching salaries in the country. One of the highest recruiting budgets in the country. Foh
 
Agree with your point on Napier. I cringe when people lump Sark into the successful category. He is 46–35 as a HC (all at P5 schools), which is above average. Jimbo Fisher is 108–33. I would definitely put Fisher in the successful camp.
Some on here have tried to convince me that what Sark did at Washington was awesome because he took over a team that went 0-12 the previous season, but you can still color me unimpressed.

0-12 at Washington the year before he got there was clearly an anomaly - they've always been an upper-end Pac 12 school that is in the mix for conference titles, especially with USC being down, but Sark was basically a .500 coach there over 5 seasons. Not terrible, but also not able to get them to what is probably their potential. I was kind of surprised he was able to parlay that into the USC job, which was a total flameout primarily caused by his off the field problems.
 
Sylvester Croom went 4-8 the year before but lost to Auburn 3-2, a top 5 LSU by 10, and to UK 14-13. Croom went 8-5 the year before that and had to play a top ten West Virginia team OOC. Also played a top 5 West Virginia team the year before that.

Mullen's second year looked great to fans, but a competent coach could beat those teams.
MSU lost to LA Tech the year before Mullen.
 
But everyone who reads actual news and not message boards knows that he hasn’t been fired and there is no vacancy. He’s only been fired on this board and TOS.
He has been fired by everyone who follows cfb, including national sports reporters who mention the Tennessee job in context of other coaching searches. Don’t act like it’s just fans here. It’s pretty much everyone who even casually follows cfb.
 
Pope’s quote on the players backs up what we’ve seen on the field. The players haven’t “quit” because they were never motivated to be there in the first place. They show up, get rolled, and don’t care. Gross to watch

Didn’t Jennings say the same after he left?
 
I had it, all I had was loss of taste and smell, a slight headache and a uncomfortable feeling with my sciatic nerve. No fever, no breathing/coughing issues.

all I did was popped some immune vitamins and some elder berry.
About the same for me, but I did have awful body aches, especially in my arthritis ravaged joints and spine, and the worst foggy fatigue I have ever had in my life..for about five days I slept 20 hours a day (before this I have hardly ever slept more than 5-6 hours a night, and I didn't hardly have the energy to do anything...it was a major chore just to get up and use the restroom.
 
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Agree with your point on Napier. I cringe when people lump Sark into the successful category. He is 46–35 as a HC (all at P5 schools), which is above average. Jimbo Fisher is 108–33. I would definitely put Fisher in the successful camp.

Saban was 43-28 before LSU hired him. Success must be measured in context. Sarkisian had a significant rebuild (Washington had won like 10 games total in the 5 or 6 years prior to his arrival, and I think they were even winless the year before).
 
Pope’s quote on the players backs up what we’ve seen on the field. The players haven’t “quit” because they were never motivated to be there in the first place. They show up, get rolled, and don’t care. Gross to watch
Exactly. The fight was gone in the third quarter. Lots of hands-on hips and scoreboard watching.
 
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