Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[KB5252]

What did I miss?

He's not saying we shouldn't try. Just that Bama can swoop in and hire any coach they wanted at any time.

 

[m1al]

AD and boosters really need to get over it and make a run at Freeze...

 

[Aesius]

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It's a great thing that Pruitt is showing his ass like that. Will make it much easier for Fulmer to shitcan him when he loses to A&M by 3 TDs on Saturday.

 

[Jack Burton]

Not at all. You just choose to believe that. I have said he would be better than Pruitt. Long term though, I didn't believe he was what we needed. Reading comprehension seems to be lost these days.

I believe that short term or long term he would have been fine here. A good coach is a good coach. No need for the snarky comment.

 

[Kingston Vol]

That's some pretty juicy gossip. It's a fun narrative to run with but it's also kind of ridiculous.

It's also no less than the third reputable source to report that Pruitt said he'd like to go back to Alabama.

It happened.

 

[engineerVOL]

“Lack of support”... orly?

 

[rjd970]

Lack of support?!!! Lol. Fire him tma if he really said that. He has more support that almost any other program.

Lack of support could mean anything. I seem to remember a couple of years ago a video coming out of a police stop with a couple of our players and you can hear Pruitt on the phone with the officer saying something to the effect of "everywhere else I have been it hasn't been handled like this" or something to that effect?

You have to remember he comes from Tuscaloosa and Bama football where everybody in the entire state, not even just Tuscaloosa, is bought in and want to see the football team succeed. He could have just been voicing his frustration that he is being forced to coach with one hand behind his back.

 

[Batman1948]

That's because he wants to keep him away from Tennessee, if an opening becomes available. He's got a hard on for UT for some reason.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Yooo that article is fire! lol

Tennessee
A few weeks back, as discontent grew among Volunteer boosters and fans about the future of head coach Jeremy Pruitt (16-18), rumors flew that Pruitt, himself discontent with the program and his lack of support, told people around the program that he’d just as soon “go back to coaching defense for Nick than put up with this ****.”

I mentioned this to a source, who offered up a financial answer: He absolutely should. In fact, Jeremy Pruitt could make more money next season as a DC somewhere else.

Here’s how. Following an extension that stultified boosters after last season (you know, the one where he lost to Georgia State), Pruitt now stands to make 60 cents on every dollar he’s owed on a contract that runs through FIVE MORE SEASONS. So if Pruitt gets fired, he’ll be paid around $12.48 million. That number is what’s called “hard exposure” by contract nerds. And here’s the most important part: The $12-ish million has no offset. Another job paying Pruitt won’t count against the total, though he has no legal obligation to seek further employment after termination.

Pruitt is owed a $4 million base salary in 2021, then $4.2 for the four seasons through 2025 (holy **** you idiots extended him I will never not pause what I’m doing and marvel at that). In 2021, he’ll also receive a retention bonus of $200,000 and an expenses budget of $36,000.

From that $4 million next season, he’ll receive $2.4 million in cash, paid out in monthly installments, if he’s fired in the next week or so. That means he’d need a job paying about $1.8 million annually starting next season to make him whole (the $4 million base plus retention bonus).

Here’s the funny part, and what makes this scenario different from almost every other coaching story I’m familiar with: Pruitt isn’t Nick Saban. He’s not his predecessor Butch Jones. He, it seems, lacks the megalomaniac fervor of a head coach, and (according to people) really would be happy just going back to being a plain-old “ball coach” defensive coordinator.

And unlike 95 percent of the qualified coaches in the market, Pruitt has held DC jobs at schools — Georgia, Alabama, Florida State — that pay coordinators seven figures.

In other words, he might actually be able to land a DC job that pays him more than $1.8 million. For example: LSU is paying Bo Pelini over $2 million, and paid Dave Aranda $2.5 million. So what happens when Pelini gets fired (lol, hypothetically, lol)? What if Texas A&M’s Mike Elko gets a head coaching job? He was really close at Temple.

The point is Jeremy Freaking Pruitt has this entire industry by the balls and probably hasn’t figured it out. (Because he might be Goro). JEREMY: Tell Tennessee to fire you RIGHT NOW, then go DC somewhere. Just go BE A BALL COACH and A BIG DUMBASS and MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY.

Do this for the rest of us, Jeremy, because it’s as close to an ideal American story as any of us can imagine in this day and age.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

“Lack of support”... orly?

1.5 mil for Chaney not good enough for him? Prob needed 6 mil/year more for venables as DC, idk.

 

[volatil]

I don’t support him

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Just listening to Jox radio here in Alabama that’s hosted by Cole Cublic. They were talking about the Auburn job and out of nowhere they start talking about a team who doesn’t currently have an opening but could soon have one and they only mentioned UT and how Freeze would love to be there.

TLDR Soon

We’re gonna screw this up, aren’t we?

 

[SLICKYINC]

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

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I really hope that’s not true. If it is, time to go

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Mutual parting coming Sunday

Would make a lot of sense

 

[Aesius]

It's also no less than the third reputable source to report that Pruitt said he'd like to go back to Alabama.

It happened.

Yeah, and it makes sense if you "read the tea leaves" on the situation.

Pruitt grew up hating UT. He's failing as a head coach here. The fans have completely turned on him due to his own dumb decisions. He's arrogant, stubborn, and hot headed. He's also still highly in demand as a DC because he's never failed at that position. It's not hard to believe he said that at all. He lashed out when he felt like his back was against the wall and said what he's probably thinking deep down. And he's not wrong...Saban would take him back immediately and he'd go back to winning championships and working for his alma mater.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

I say we rile up Pruitt even more and make him do something really dumb to get fired for cause. Our university needs us.

 

[Atlanta VOL]

If you think the UT Bagmen or on the same level as AU you aren't paying attention.

Has nothing to do with the level...it has to do with the sheer number of guys they have and their willing to win even if it means going above their means to contribute...our guys have PTSD from the last 15 years and are gun shy or have aged out. Pretty simple we are just as good as anyone else just don’t have the sheer amount of bullets that others have. A great hire would inspire and help change that IMO.

 

[Jack Burton]

He's not saying we shouldn't try. Just that Bama can swoop in and hire any coach they wanted at any time.

This discussion was in response to someone suggesting that Alabama may go after Kiffin to replace Saban eventually and then it was implied we shouldn’t hire Kiffin because Alabama could steal him away.

Alabama can steal anyone, but right now they have Saban. We shouldn’t worry about them or anyone stealing someone from us. Let’s focus on landing someone worth stealing in the first place.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Has nothing to do with the level...it has to do with the sheer number of guys they have and their willing to win even if it means going above their means to contribute...our guys have PTSD from the last 15 years and are gun shy or have aged out. Pretty simple we are just as good as anyone else just don’t have the sheer amount of bullets that others have. A great hire would inspire and help change that IMO.

Welcome back friend.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Has nothing to do with the level...it has to do with the sheer number of guys they have and their willing to win even if it means going above their means to contribute...our guys have PTSD from the last 15 years and are gun shy or have aged out. Pretty simple we are just as good as anyone else just don’t have the sheer amount of bullets that others have. A great hire would inspire and help change that IMO.

Would Kiffin coming back be a great hire. In your opinion

 

[knoxswim890]

I say we rile up Pruitt even more and make him do something really dumb to get fired for cause. Our university needs us.

VolTwitter is all ears.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Has nothing to do with the level...it has to do with the sheer number of guys they have and their willing to win even if it means going above their means to contribute...our guys have PTSD from the last 15 years and are gun shy or have aged out. Pretty simple we are just as good as anyone else just don’t have the sheer amount of bullets that others have. A great hire would inspire and help change that IMO.

Is it Freeze or are we swinging for bigger?

 

[volatil]

Has nothing to do with the level...it has to do with the sheer number of guys they have and their willing to win even if it means going above their means to contribute...our guys have PTSD from the last 15 years and are gun shy or have aged out. Pretty simple we are just as good as anyone else just don’t have the sheer amount of bullets that others have. A great hire would inspire and help change that IMO.

Well what are you waiting on? Get out there and inspire.

The time is now

 

[Kingston Vol]

Also I know one Phillip Fulmer will not be thrilled about the HC he took a chance on telling folks in the football complex that he wants so go back to Alabama of all places.

This goose is cooked. Let's get to Sunday and start the damn search.