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Orange Maniac said:
My point is, don't get sucked into the whole thing again. Yes, it's fun and some of the best times on this site but we can't take anything seriously until there is an opening. Even that is still in limbo. Will Phil kick JP to the curb or not. No clue. We don't look good as a team so I think a change is warranted but until I see headlines that JP is gone, I will keep my powder dry. All this other stuff looks exactly like the 2 searches before, just with different names. Would Hugh crawl to Knoxville for the job? Maybe, but right now JP would help him up, show him the facilities and take him to the bus station so he could go back home.
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Thanks for keeping us grounded. We don’t need people posting with any amount of joy or hope for a better tomorrow. 👊🏼
 
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The problem for those saying “school A” is more worried about winning than Tennessee is that those schools mostly aren’t on there 4th coach in a decade-ish (with the desire by some for a 5th). Like it or not those other situations aren’t comparable to Tennessee and, yes, I’m sure there is booster fatigue paying out all these buyouts.

These boosters aren’t stupid nor are they made of money.

And to say some school cares more about winning than another (save Vandy) is ridiculous. Everyone wants to win.
 
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pierce60 said:
The problem for those saying “school A” is more worried about winning than Tennessee is that those schools mostly aren’t on there 4th coach in a decade-ish (with the desire by some for a 5th). Like it or not those other situations aren’t comparable to Tennessee and, yes, I’m sure there is booster fatigue paying out all these buyouts.

These boosters aren’t stupid nor are they made of money.

And to say some school cares more about winning than another (save Vandy) is ridiculous. Everyone wants to win.
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Bad decisions in the past beget more bad decisions. We've hired more coaches in the last decade because we are either incompetent, cheap, or both.
 
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Who let all the pessimists in this morning? If I want to believe that Santa and Jesus are teaming up to coach my Vols, so be it. Last I checked, I had a pair, paid taxes and was a grown ___ man, could control my emotions and feelings, knew the difference between right and wrong and had the ability to reason.
 
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Orange Studs said:
Come on people its 8:25 AM we got to start picking up the fire Pruitt news.
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I think we lose by 2 TDs this weekend, but its not enough to can Pruitt. I also think theres a change at OC and DC, just not sure who us in play there. AV referenced Air Raid, didn't he?, So if not HC, then OC. DC, who knows???
 
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Orange Maniac said:
My point is, don't get sucked into the whole thing again. Yes, it's fun and some of the best times on this site but we can't take anything seriously until there is an opening. Even that is still in limbo. Will Phil kick JP to the curb or not. No clue. We don't look good as a team so I think a change is warranted but until I see headlines that JP is gone, I will keep my powder dry. All this other stuff looks exactly like the 2 searches before, just with different names. Would Hugh crawl to Knoxville for the job? Maybe, but right now JP would help him up, show him the facilities and take him to the bus station so he could go back home.
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I think most are just having fun with it and hoping that it comes true. Right now not much to talk about but the hope that CP gets the Git shirt. A lot of us have been through this since the Kiffin time and I have learned have fun with it but until its official its just talk and hoping.
 
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pierce60 said:
The problem for those saying “school A” is more worried about winning than Tennessee is that those schools mostly aren’t on there 4th coach in a decade-ish (with the desire by some for a 5th). Like it or not those other situations aren’t comparable to Tennessee and, yes, I’m sure there is booster fatigue paying out all these buyouts.

These boosters aren’t stupid nor are they made of money.

And to say some school cares more about winning than another (save Vandy) is ridiculous. Everyone wants to win.
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Auburn just fired their 6-4 coach and they’re paying a 21 million dollar buyout. They care about winning. Alabama went through several coaches proving they care about winning and aren’t scared to fire someone that isn’t working out.

Pruitt isn’t going to turn things around here. It’s obvious to almost everyone. Giving another year or 2 won’t change that. Pruitts ceiling is 8 wins if he’s lucky. There’s no point in keeping him.
 
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05_never_again said:
They're paying him $21m to go away. I'd have nice things to say about them too on the way out.

I mean, he probably does mean what he says, but easy to do so when they're giving you all that cash on the way out.
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Pretty sure there was never a statement from Dooley or Butch to the fans
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
I think we lose by 2 TDs this weekend, but its not enough to can Pruitt. I also think theres a change at OC and DC, just not sure who us in play there. AV referenced Air Raid, didn't he?, So if not HC, then OC. DC, who knows???
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You know its got to be in the back the decision makers minds about changing the staff for the third time for CP with no results and seems he can't get alone with anyone. I think we get beat worse than 2 TD's and I just don't see bring in new assistants and now if you fire CP the next year you got more buyouts than you do now. But jmo
 
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Orange Studs said:
You know its got to be in the back the decision makers minds about changing the staff for the third time for CP with no results and seems he can't get alone with anyone. I think we get beat worse than 2 TD's and I just don't see bring in new assistants and now if you fire CP the next year you got more buyouts than you do now. But jmo
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New assistants won’t change anything. He will micromanage once again and will look the same. He may hire some home runs, but won’t matter.
 
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pierce60 said:
The problem for those saying “school A” is more worried about winning than Tennessee is that those schools mostly aren’t on there 4th coach in a decade-ish (with the desire by some for a 5th). Like it or not those other situations aren’t comparable to Tennessee and, yes, I’m sure there is booster fatigue paying out all these buyouts.

These boosters aren’t stupid nor are they made of money.

And to say some school cares more about winning than another (save Vandy) is ridiculous. Everyone wants to win.
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I think most people would be fine with giving Pruitt more time if the team was showing incremental progress each year. The fact that they’ve bombed and regressed so much in year three is a really bad sign. If all signs point to it not working out, then why delay the inevitable?
 
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I have nothing against Pruitt. I think we were all hopeful he would learn on the job but it seems this job was alittle much for him as a first time head coach. Pruitt was one of the few that would take this job after Schiano Sunday. I am grateful that he gave it a shot. But it’s time to move on. We don’t need to wait and lose out on key recruits next cycle. The money won’t change that much from this year to the next because new staff will have to be overpaid to come here for a single season If JP is kept another year. Just my thoughts.
 
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Orange Maniac said:
Just like last time. Boosters working behind the scenes. They have their guy committed. Big battle among the money people and BOT. Gruden wrapped up, ready to go and out walks Jeremy Pruitt in the end. Pruitt will likely be here next year unless there have been significant violations made. It's the same, every time. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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We shall see... you kinda gloss over the “insert new names” part. Those new names include a new president. I’m just glad there’s big money boosters trying to fix UT football. Nothing wrong with at least hoping for improvement.
 
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HankHill said:


Bring him home Phil.
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Lmao
You don’t cuss
You don’t drink
What are your vices?

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volfan_89 said:
How many bad decisions did Alabama make before landing Saban? Was firing the coach before Saban a bad decision because of all the coaches they fired before him?
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Acc to interwebs and my noggin they had such stalwarts (between Stallings and Satan), Dubose, Franchione, Shula, and Price.

They literally had the SEC in their money counting room and STILL managed to screw it all up.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Auburn just fired their 6-4 coach and they’re paying a 21 million dollar buyout. They care about winning. Alabama went through several coaches proving they care about winning and aren’t scared to fire someone that isn’t working out.

Pruitt isn’t going to turn things around here. It’s obvious to almost everyone. Giving another year or 2 won’t change that. Pruitts ceiling is 8 wins if he’s lucky. There’s no point in keeping him.
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Again, Auburn isn’t on their 4th coach in a decade and they can afford to move on (financially and institutionally), but that’s much harder at Tennessee because of the past decade of mistakes and mismanagement. The situations are not comparable.

And when Bama was going through their debacle there’s weren’t $10-20 million dollar buyouts and coaches contracts weren’t what they are now. And a guy was fired for cause in the midst of that too. Plus, they narrowly avoided disaster when Rich Rod turned them down and they fell into Saban.
 
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volfan_89 said:
How many bad decisions did Alabama make before landing Saban? Was firing the coach before Saban a bad decision because of all the coaches they fired before him?
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The financials are MUCH different now than 20 years ago. That’s what some are missing. And they lucked into Saban because Rich Rod said no at the 11th hour.
 
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